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Originally Posted by slowplay
(Post 1260902)
As to the Pacific, Japan has made a governmental decision not to grow. There's another country just to the west that has 385 million middle class citizens and another 800+ million that will never get there.
North America is the world's number 2 aviation market. Asia is the growth market and number 1. NRT will be fine as long as the US and Japanese governments let it be fine. If and when we lose that battle there are plenty of options. The question is will it be a painful revolutionary change or a moderate evolutionary change. |
Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 1260918)
Its also the world's bigest (and fakest) bubble. Over population is not a national resource. That's why they build 10 cities a year then immediately abandon them to crumble with tumble weeds blowing down empty 8 land superhighways just to keep their fake stimulus money printing GDP up.
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Why So Long
A's have been done for a quite a while. Why is it taking so long for for B's to come out. With all of the flying drawdown, it isn't as if there are a lot of flights to schedule. There isn't even anything to backdoor and it's getting to be late in the afternoon! :(
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Originally Posted by CAAC ATP
(Post 1260927)
Do you have a source for this or is it gross exaggeration in an attempt to make a point? Honestly, I'm curious.
Where is everyone? The derelict majesty of Chinese ghost town built to house one million, but with less than 30,000 residents | Mail Online I'm guessing that the central planners in the government need a place to put all the money from the trade surpluses. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Chinese gov't is trying trying to move people from agricultural areas to areas like the above article refers to. |
Originally Posted by ExAF
(Post 1260932)
A's have been done for a quite a while. Why is it taking so long for for B's to come out. With all of the flying drawdown, it isn't as if there are a lot of flights to schedule. There isn't even anything to backdoor and it's getting to be late in the afternoon! :(
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Originally Posted by Delta1067
(Post 1260936)
All of the Oct trips finally disappeared from open time so hopefully the B's will be out soon.
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
(Post 1260937)
ATL88B is available via 'back door method'. Got 14 days off in Oct.
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NY7erb are also out via back door
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
(Post 1260935)
Hey CAAC, I found an article showing a city in China that was designed to house 1 million, but currently holds 30,000.
Where is everyone? The derelict majesty of Chinese ghost town built to house one million, but with less than 30,000 residents | Mail Online I'm guessing that the central planners in the government need a place to put all the money from the trade surpluses. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Chinese gov't is trying trying to move people from agricultural areas to areas like the above article refers to. Back to the subject. I don't understand Gloopy's post. There is no context. Even if there is a housing bubble in China, Asia cannot be ignored. If visa restrictions are lifted on the Chinese and they are able to vacation abroad as freely as Americans Delta had better be in a position to accommodate the masses. FedEx and UPS have realized the importance of Asia and China for a long time. With hubs in Guangzhou and Shenzhen they don't seem to be concerned about a bubble. |
Originally Posted by CAAC ATP
(Post 1260944)
Back to the subject. I don't understand Gloopy's post. There is no context. Even if there is a housing bubble in China, Asia cannot be ignored. If visa restrictions are lifted on the Chinese and they are able to vacation abroad as freely as Americans Delta had better be in a position to accommodate the masses. FedEx and UPS have realized the importance of Asia and China for a long time. With hubs in Guangzhou and Shenzhen they don't seem to be concerned about a bubble. I think there is still net growth in Asia for sure, but nowhere remotely near the rose colored hourly A380 service to every fake GDP city they build by government edict. Far more will be pumped into the region than reality will be able to support and that will have to come out and come out hard. One thing to remember about bubbles, particularly the big, bad ones: very few can see through the fog of fake growth to identify a bubble until well after it starts to pop, despite how obvious it was all along after the fact. |
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