Can't remember if I posted this or not... but... wow! It's amazing there were only minor injuries.

I don't think UT is gonna be able to afford to hire another mid major coach with "promise". They are gonna have to back the dumptruck full o'money up to somebody's house and get someone that can win tomorrow.. not 3 years from tomorrow. Bobby Petrino with all the baggage he has, might be such a name. Personally I like Charlie Strong even though he has that gator DNA, but he can win, and he can recruit south Florida. There is a lot of talk about Jon Gruden, but I hope that is just rumor because the NFL will call and he be gone leaving another train wreck in his wake. I liked Dooley, but unfortunately he was our Mike Shula. WE need a true college coach like Saban or Chip Kelly.

But as so many of my UK friends are so fond of saying "I can hardly wait till basketball season"!

All I could make out was blah blah three people blah blah ATC blah pilot error blah blah.

It looked like Lexington, but without the tree.

looks my landings in the 800 just that they came up short on runway length!!

two separate issues:

First:
ANA Lufthansa train their own non-pilot newhires because of lack of a qualified rated pilot applicant pool in their home countries and because they view ab-initio pilot training as an integral part of their respective flight standards/training department.

Should Delta experience a qualified rated pilot shortage here in the US it would be a corporate decision to make ab-initio training an integral part of the flight standards/training department. Our contract makes no provisions for requiring training by Delta so it's highly unlikely Delta would ever bring ab-initio training directly under the purview of Delta Air Lines. Most likely it would be an offshoot of DGS if that....

Once that decision is made it would be up to DALPA to negotiate the work rules/conditions pay/benefits for the non-rated pilot newhires, or to require seniority list instructors for newhires. IMHO it's highly unlikely we would ever see either.

Second:
I agree.
A Delta pilot is a Delta pilot is a Delta pilot.
Seniority sorts out everything else.
Every Delta pilot should be afforded a hotel in training because it's the right thing to do.

Cheers
George

This could be the turning point for outsourcing. Regional airlines already run on very thin profit margins, and the new rules will make them much less efficient. This will require more pilots, but they can't find qualified pilots now. The regional managers are screaming murder right now, and you see several quoted in the article.

Johnso,

Your post count is 9,777.

Is that also your bidding preference? :D

Right. The facility might already exist, but not the sort of arrangement I was thinking about. There wasn't a relationship where a) Delta paid tuition, and b) the student was committed to Delta.

I'm not suggesting ALPA endorses condidates, but I'm asking whether a person that was training under an ab-initio relationship would be a new-hire, just as for ANA. If such person is covered, and I supect labor law and our contract would make sure they're covered, then we have leverage.

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George,

I agree, but it will never happen.

We have roughly 5,000+ qualified pilots flying Delta passengers today. 350 of them were already represented by our MEC. Our MEC voted them out of our representative structure.

If we are unwilling to represent the Compass pilots, there aint no way Moak's regime is going to try to represent ab initio guys. ALPA did not list scope, or unity, as a priority in the strategic goals set by our BOD.

Disappointing ...

... anyway. Delta will never have a pilot shortage. We pay pretty well ... . US Air, Virgin, Spirit, Allegiant are going to have to pay more to get applicants.