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Old 09-15-2012, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL View Post
Didn't we already announce the end of DTW-HND in anticipation of SEA-HND? It would only be a loss of jobs if we cancel the DTW-HND schedule and we don't get SEA-HND.

If we are trying to get additional HND slots why would we give one up before we had a replacement? What am I missing?
As I understand it, the slot was awarded on a city pair, not an airline. We had to commit to stopping DTW HND to move it. With that comes the ability for others to bid on it. AMR reportedly wants to move their slot too, and is supporting our request.
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Old 09-15-2012, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL View Post
Didn't we already announce the end of DTW-HND in anticipation of SEA-HND? It would only be a loss of jobs if we cancel the DTW-HND schedule and we don't get SEA-HND.

If we are trying to get additional HND slots why would we give one up before we had a replacement? What am I missing?
I believe the issue is that DAL is losing money with DTW-HND, so it is cancelling service and attempting to use their HND slot from SEA. This opens up the bidding war.

For me it is quite simple. There is no downside with us keeping a HND slot, there is a downside with losing a HND slot, therefore I took 1 minute out of my day and sent Lahood a message.
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Old 09-15-2012, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 76drvr View Post
I believe the issue is that DAL is losing money with DTW-HND, so it is cancelling service and attempting to use their HND slot from SEA. This opens up the bidding war.

For me it is quite simple. There is no downside with us keeping a HND slot, there is a downside with losing a HND slot, therefore I took 1 minute out of my day and sent Lahood a message.
Ditto... DTW HND is gone, so its in my interest ( and all of ours) to take a couple minutes and do it.
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Old 09-15-2012, 04:08 PM
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How the heck did ATL become a Fifi base?
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Old 09-15-2012, 04:14 PM
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How the heck did ATL become a Fifi base?
There is almost as many fifi departures out of there as DTW... but only 1/4 the amount of pilot slots. Sure would like to see some more love for ATL fifi in the coming bids. I can hold a line on the ATL ER and 737, but am 20% away from holding one on fifi.
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Old 09-15-2012, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
Ditto... DTW HND is gone, so its in my interest ( and all of ours) to take a couple minutes and do it.
On a related note, if you plan to send the letter, the selection you want to click is the one that sends it to LaHood, not congress. The link is set up for the Hood letter to be easy. If you click on congress, its a bunch of gobbledygook.
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Old 09-15-2012, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
One thing that has not been mentioned in this debate is: Having the membership vote for the Master Chairman but they reps having the ability to recall. Recall does not necessarily have to reside with the rank in file pilots.
FWIW, having the committee structure beholden to only the MEC admin is a bad idea. If you get a MEC Chair that is trying to drive an agenda, you can essentially get the committee structure to back up whatever message he wants to send, right or wrong. You get only one side of "the message" from the people the reps need to depend on for being the subject matter experts, and you might not necessarily get the whole picture.

There is a LOT of bureaucratic intertia that goes along with that.

For committee heads, there needs to be a vetting process that goes beyond "here is the guy I want, you need to confirm him". We do that for the big stuff (merger, NC, etc), but it should be extended to every committee. I lets a little air into the process, and you might get some really smart people step up who don't have their ticket punched.

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Old 09-15-2012, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
There is almost as many fifi departures out of there as DTW... but only 1/4 the amount of pilot slots. Sure would like to see some more love for ATL fifi in the coming bids. I can hold a line on the ATL ER and 737, but am 20% away from holding one on fifi.
Why not bid ATL ER? Same base, a reg line, and a pay increase?

Or have you adopted my saying, "if it's Boeing, I ain't going!"
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:13 PM
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Nevermind, it won't matter in two weeks anyway...
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
Why not bid ATL ER? Same base, a reg line, and a pay increase?

Or have you adopted my saying, "if it's Boeing, I ain't going!"
I'm frozen until next year. We'll revisit things then.
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