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Old 09-23-2012, 11:30 AM
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From JG's weekly update:

"Depending on the outcome of the push for more HND slots, we could see Network pursue additional Narita over-flight opportunities."

Not a good sign for the NRT operation.
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Old 09-23-2012, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane View Post
I won't comment on the rest of the post but my "crystal ball" says there will be more than one more displacement in the future, at least off the domestic 767. When Delta starts parking 757's as we are getting 737-900's, where do you think the displacements are going to come from? In my mind the domestic 767 is the, for lack of a better word, "perfect" category to cover these displacements. The company wants to get rid of the category here is a taylor made way to get rid of the category......

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JG said as much in the weekly update.
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Old 09-23-2012, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by MrBojangles View Post
No hiring until late 2013 (thanks yes voters). Do you all remember when we were voting on the contract and a memo came out saying if we voted this in we may need to hire by the end of this year? I can't believe so many people fell for that.
What difference did a PWA vote have on the company placing additonal aircraft into service in mid-late 2013 (that would necessitate new pilot hiring)?

Not sure how you see hiring at an earlier point without a new deal.....
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Old 09-23-2012, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit View Post
Not sure how you see hiring at an earlier point without a new deal.....
Some thought if we did not allow additional reserve utilization the Company would have been forced to hire for Summer 13 flying, which would mean a spool up about now.

However, there are a whole bunch of variables no one knew precisely (how many early outs, summer 13 block, etc)
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Old 09-23-2012, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite View Post
From JG's weekly update:

"Depending on the outcome of the push for more HND slots, we could see Network pursue additional Narita over-flight opportunities."

Not a good sign for the NRT operation.
Why? Because the company is smart enough to have audibles ready to call?
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Old 09-23-2012, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane View Post
I won't comment on the rest of the post but my "crystal ball" says there will be more than one more displacement in the future, at least off the domestic 767. When Delta starts parking 757's as we are getting 737-900's, where do you think the displacements are going to come from? In my mind the domestic 767 is the, for lack of a better word, "perfect" category to cover these displacements. The company wants to get rid of the category here is a taylor made way to get rid of the category......

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Originally Posted by flyallnite View Post
JG said as much in the weekly update.

Depends. For years they've been saying they'll let the category die off naturally. They want to avoid displacements as much as possible to soften the training cycle blows. Only time will tell.
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Old 09-23-2012, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
Jet Blue for one has enjoyed our retreat from Boston.

Actually jetblues growth in Boston has been a almost route for route swap of AMR's flying. aMR drops a route a JB picks it up the next day under the marketing agreement with AMR.
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Old 09-23-2012, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit View Post
What difference did a PWA vote have on the company placing additonal aircraft into service in mid-late 2013 (that would necessitate new pilot hiring)?

Not sure how you see hiring at an earlier point without a new deal.....
Changes in the reserve rules certainly didn't increase the chance we will hire.
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Old 09-23-2012, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit View Post
What difference did a PWA vote have on the company placing additonal aircraft into service in mid-late 2013 (that would necessitate new pilot hiring)?

Not sure how you see hiring at an earlier point without a new deal.....
Because even ALPA came out and said the changes to work rules resulted in the need for 250 less pilots (I realize that number changed a few times throughout the road shows). We most certainly would have needed to hire to staff the 717's if we hadn't monkeyed around with the reserve utilization.
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Old 09-23-2012, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
Some thought if we did not allow additional reserve utilization the Company would have been forced to hire for Summer 13 flying, which would mean a spool up about now.

However, there are a whole bunch of variables no one knew precisely (how many early outs, summer 13 block, etc)
or we had to reduce the number of pilots in each category to pay for the pay raises, eh?
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