bohicagain

Couple of things. They are unionized by the teamsters and the Scab is no longer in charge from what I recall but I totally agree with the principle behind it. Safety is not 1st isn't a distant 3rd

Bucking Bar

Cavalier,

Think about what you wrote and please respond. Tell me of one example where your alleged "national RJ union" made a single decision which favored "RJ" operators over mainline members, just one.

In reality our national union took the side of mainline pilots and got sued for their trouble. ALPA defended the exclusivity of the Delta MEC to negotiate with Delta management, thwarting members at ASA and Comair who had their scope vanish as they were acquired by another carrier, yet were unable to bind that carrier to a contract (scope) of their own. Comair is gone, ASA no longer exists, having been acquired by a non union carrier, merged in with COEX's operation and now operates under their name.

Our national union just signed off on a contract which provides for the recovery of flying to mainline, for every ALPA contract must bear the signature of ALPA's President (credit to our MEC and negotiators though).

The DPA targeted a nonexistent threat. It was based on emotion, false perceptions and feelings. Without an objective, fact based, reason for being it was surely doomed to failure.

Hope those who supported the DPA will use their energy to support ALPA and change things for the better with their participation.

XtremeF150

Hey one of you 765 guys know what is up with the extra segment coming from FRA-ATL today.
I was watching it because I was kicking around going over but it is one of the optimized segments and I am trying to gauge if the nonrevs usually make it on. That pop up about possibly not boarding nonrevs even if there are seats causes some concern. Any of you guys that fly that route have any info on how often this is the case?

Bucking Bar

I'll have to double check the Teamsters thing, although after what they did at GoJets, I don't count them as a "union."

While researching your response I had to chuckle at one of their interview questions.

johnso29

Here's some great info. I've stated this in the past WRT to assessments. More proof that TC needs to do research before he puts out his emails.

As we reported in Touch & Gos 12-01, there have been rumors and wild but unsupported speculation that the awarded damages will be very large, requiring an assessment of the ALPA membership. There is no basis for this assertion. Further, ALPA has never assessed its membership to pay for litigation, awards, verdicts or settlements, and no such assessment is being considered.

But to add to what we wrote in Touch & Gos 12-01, you should understand that under ALPA’s Constitution and By-Laws, an assessment of the membership can be adopted:

Only by a majority vote of the Board of Directors or the Executive Board and then

Only by a majority vote of the active members in good standing, i.e. ALPA’s line pilots


Don’t allow yourself to react to or be influenced by rumors, speculation, and misinformation that you may encounter on the line. ALPA will continue to use every resource at its disposal in defense of this case, and we will keep you updated with facts as the case goes forward.



So there you have it. Tim's claim that an award to TWA can be covered by a mandated assessment is flat out wrong.

johnso29

I did some digging in icrew, & a flight was CXD on the 27th. Looks like 9856 was a segment to get the plane back to ATL.

LandGreen2

Gentlemen,

Trying to decide whether to connect to FCO through AMS or CDG? Never been to either airport...ATL FCO looks tight for non revving. I am leaning towards AMS just because it is open up front...CDG, not so much? Planning on KLM out of AMS or AF out of CDG in order to get to FCO.

Anybody done this before? How long to allow in between connections? 2 hour?

Thanks guys!

nyc7erb

Getting ready to do the same thing in October. From what I can tell, arriving in CDG, you have to exit the secure area where we park (2E), go through immigration, back through security and out to (2F) where the AF flights go out to Rome. Depending on the time of day, etc.. etc.., the lines can be long. I do think with 2 hours you should be okay however. Delta books connects with much less time than that.... LOL.

Bucking Bar

Thanks to all the fine men who put their names out to serve as Status Reps in Council 44. This year we have some excellent Candidates to pick from.

Pilots in C44 got a candidate's letter in their e-mail from David Nestor, which is worth a comment. We have some great people in office and some good people running too, but in this letter one Candidate takes a stand on the issues. Whether or not you agree, it is refreshing to see objective details about a Candidate's positions. Further, David Nestor has a lot of experience with the day to day work of representing pilots and helping folks find the right answers, which is a large part of the day in any Status Rep's job.

Read all of your Candidates' letters and vote.

JungleBus

My wife and I have nonrevved through both airports, and actually nonrev through AMS on a fairly regular basis as there are three direct flights from MSP and connecting in AMS is far less stressful than hassling with JFK or ATL! I would say Amsterdam is your better bet, it's more compact & better laid out than CDG, transfers are quite easy with the transfer desks, and I've found the KLM agents to be friendlier & more knowledgeable than AF agents. There's also a DL nonrev center in AMS in case you get stuck and need more paper ZED tickets, I don't believe there is anything of the sort in CDG.

One hour should be sufficient for connecting in AMS. I've done it in a half hour but that's really pushing it, as you have to go through customs unless you're transferring to a non-Schengen country, plus security a second time. The good news is that KLM doesn't really overbook, and you're often the only standby.

On KLM, ZEDs are really easy now that they're electronic, you buy them online with myidtravel.com, and then you simply check in at the kiosks at the transfer desks. It's quite slick, no extra step of listing. If you don't use the flight, you can refund it online (minus a $1.50 ticket fee, I think). Keep in mind that Alitalia may also be an option AMS-FCO, and they are use the cheaper ZED-L fares. In either case, though, taxes out of AMS will be the majority of the cost of the ZED ticket.

Let me know if you need anything else...enjoy Italy!