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forgot to bid 10-27-2012 06:45 PM

It's kind of crazy but elections are 4 years in the making really and truly two years of nonstop political chatter about them. Seems like they take forever. This one will be over before I can bid for December. One way or another it's just kind of crazy.

Not to mention, our MD-88 Denzel movie is around the corner as is Bond and Abraham Lincoln. I am curious about the later, I'd like to recommend to history buffs like Newk and stuff the Abraham and Mary Lincoln A House Divided PBS documentary. The man was a tortured and depressed soul for good reason, but he never stopped moving forward.

forgot to bid 10-27-2012 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1283746)
Anyone flown with a LCA who has spilled the beans on the meeting takeaway? I just flew a trip with one, and he took 6-7 pages of notes, but I couldn't find anything earthshattering in them.

However, there was an interesting perspective floated about the TA/contract. Apparently, the timing of it had nothing to do with RJs and 717s (that was just $h1t for the troops), it had to do with locking down labor costs in order to get institutional investors and lenders to play ball with management for lending/ leverage.

That was our fleeting opportunity?

scambo1 10-27-2012 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1283755)
That was our fleeting opportunity?

It made perfect sense when fully fleshed out. However, sadly, it does highlight the amatuerish nature of ALPA negotiation...or if I was a conspiracy theorist, the reality that our CBA isn't really OUR cba.

Just for the heck of it, I'll toss this out. RA was purty happy about the 717 deal. SWA is going to spend $1B on getting them all ready for us.
+717

kiteflyer 10-27-2012 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1283746)
Anyone flown with a LCA who has spilled the beans on the meeting takeaway? I just flew a trip with one, and he took 6-7 pages of notes, but I couldn't find anything earthshattering in them.

However, there was an interesting perspective floated about the TA/contract. Apparently, the timing of it had nothing to do with RJs and 717s (that was just $h1t for the troops), it had to do with locking down labor costs in order to get institutional investors and lenders to play ball with management for lending/ leverage.

Exactly. I saw right through the RJ/717 shenanigans and voted No. But that's besides the point.

Big A and the board wanted one thing. An investment grade credit rating to refinance 10 Billion worth of debt with.

Our quick TA was one step towards that rating.

Boomer 10-27-2012 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1283698)
Fox News

MSNBC

I'll take Fox.


I used to watch CNN, until Rudi left...
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_O-oqWBGm-6...rudi0309bx.jpg



I wonder where she'll turn up?
http://www.reportercaps.com/Home_Fox...khtiar_020.jpg


OH SNAP!!!
http://www.midlifebachelor.com/image...iBakhtiar1.jpg

forgot to bid 10-27-2012 06:59 PM

Notre Dame is normally a bit overrated to me.

Not this year. Very entertaining game.

And somehow this needs to be related to Delta. Hmmmm.

Hey, remember when our own Buzzpat was on Fox News with Martha, Martha, Martha?

http://img003.lazygirls.info/people/...UdlH.sized.jpg

+717s

Boomer 10-27-2012 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1283753)
Not to mention, our MD-88 Denzel movie is around the corner as is Bond and Abraham Lincoln. I am curious about the later, I'd like to recommend to history buffs like Newk and stuff the Abraham and Mary Lincoln A House Divided PBS documentary. The man was a tortured and depressed soul for good reason, but he never stopped moving forward.

FTB, you don't have to wait. The Lincoln documentary is already out on DVD.

http://cdn.rickey.org/wp-content/upl...Video-Clip.jpg

Tortured and depressed is right.

forgot to bid 10-27-2012 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1283771)
FTB, you don't have to wait. The Lincoln documentary is already out on DVD.

http://cdn.rickey.org/wp-content/upl...Video-Clip.jpg

Tortured and depressed is right.

On foggy nights, I like to chop wood too.

I could've been President.

80ktsClamp 10-27-2012 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1283746)
Anyone flown with a LCA who has spilled the beans on the meeting takeaway? I just flew a trip with one, and he took 6-7 pages of notes, but I couldn't find anything earthshattering in them.

However, there was an interesting perspective floated about the TA/contract. Apparently, the timing of it had nothing to do with RJs and 717s (that was just $h1t for the troops), it had to do with locking down labor costs in order to get institutional investors and lenders to play ball with management for lending/ leverage.

As far as I can tell, it was more an issue of it being posted online directly from the meeting... I don't particularly get it, but management was TICKED that detailed notes were posted on here. Nothing really seemed trade secret, but when there is a response like that you've got to take action to save potential job action.

I know in earlier years that some of the ALPA higher ups were annoyed that the LCAs were given the info and it was posted on here first before they knew about it. Perhaps that's a foundation for where the response came from.

Boomer 10-27-2012 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1283772)
On foggy nights, I like to chop wood too.

I could've been President.

Mr Lincoln: "Why do I carry an axe? Because a lumberjack is too heavy."


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