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FIIGMO 11-08-2012 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1289161)
C'mon FIIG, you know I love ya. Common sense? Look at our economy and the markets. Common cents says we are sucking big time. More of the same? I sincerely hope not. But, I honestly think we're screwed. Doom and gloom? Yep, we've had plenty

Buzz no worries I am feeling the love!! I guess my post conveyed a position or bias that certainly was not intended! I too really dont see much changing for the better! I just like to visit here and talk shop. Politics is always a catch 22 and as more centrist politically I cringe at what is happening because we are losing ground and time because this current set of politics is about who thinks they are right and not taking care of whats right! No changes in the near future!

Purple was talking some sense and when I found myself leaning towards his trend in conversation I had that OMG moment and I knew all was not right in the APC world! Doom and gloom of the latest Crew resources letter I can handle in bits and pieces and still call all ya'll my friends!!!

Hoping for SEA and praying not to be bump from LAX! Maybe I should MD to the DC9 and hope the back log is soooo bad that I can take a few months off.....:D

johnso29 11-08-2012 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1289065)
The market sure did like the election results....:rolleyes:

Actually the I read the decline in the market was more related to Europe announcing that it's economy in 2013 would grow by 0.1% instead of 1.0%.

Elvis90 11-08-2012 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1289291)
Actually the I read the decline in the market was more related to Europe announcing that it's economy in 2013 would grow by 0.1% instead of 1.0%.

Unfortunately you need a WSJ subscription to see this, but it essentially says that businesses had hoped for a relaxation of regulation post-election, and now that won't happen. But their biggest fears are the "fiscal cliff" on Jan. 1, 2013, especially since Congress is still divided, which leads to uncertainty that spooks the markets.

Wall Street Wallows in After-Election Gloom - WSJ.com

badflaps 11-08-2012 06:25 AM

I see Emirates may have some 777's for sale. Mebbbe our purchaser of gently used air machines will notice.....

727C47 11-08-2012 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1289165)
Bravo. Which is precisely why great civilizations fall. Cicero was the man!

Rome didn't fall till nearly five centuries after this was written, it had not even reached its Imperial peak till centuries after Cicero had passed, though the Republic itself was replaced by the Imperium with the rise of Caesar, in other words I wouldn't count us out quite yet.

Boomer 11-08-2012 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by 727C47 (Post 1289319)
Rome didn't fall till nearly five centuries after this was written,

If Rome had the internet, it would have fallen in about six hours. :D

Elvis90 11-08-2012 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1289327)
If Rome had the internet, it would have fallen in about six hours. :D

Now that right there is funny, I don't care who you are! Good one Boomer! :D

firstmob 11-08-2012 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 1289308)
I see Emirates may have some 777's for sale. Mebbbe our purchaser of gently used air machines will notice.....

Where did you see this?

shiznit 11-08-2012 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1289259)
From Flight Ops Crew Planning News:

"MAX RESERVE AND RESERVE FULL
Beginning with the December bid period, PWA Section 23 S.2.a.1 becomes effective. Previously, a reserve pilot would not be assigned a rotation that would cause his credit to exceed the ALV. The new language will allow a pilot with whose accumulated monthly block and credit is below the reserve guarantee to be assigned a rotation as long as it does not cause his credit to exceed the ALV plus 15 hours."

I really don't like this part of our PWA. I got two extra days off last month because scheduling maxed me out.

Also, the year-over-year decreases in block hours system wide is a disappointment. I personally have moved up 521 seniority numbers since two years ago, but I have fewer people below me now.

BTW, I jumpseated with an American crew last week and the FO was furious that my 3rd year pay rate exceeded his 12-year pay rate on the Maddog, which will only get wider beginning Jan. 1st. I'm interested to see what American will look like next year.

Agreed

Agreed

and

Agreed

I would have preferred a max of ALV +7.5 (which matches the LCW)

The plus side of reserve changes are that each reserve pilot has his "full" amount adjusted downward by any credit in the month (which we didn't have before) so you can end up with more days off;
CQ being placed on a reserve day rather than being pro-rated, more days off;
low ALV month means extra day off, 20% res staffing means another day off.

I'd love to finally see some positive movement, but don't have to worry "the next bid is the BIG ONE.":rolleyes:

AMR pilot are in a tough spot, but its Bankruptcy and it is a VERY ugly process and no matter what they push for, it will be a concessionary contract...its just a matter of how much. The part I HATE the most is the 6 year duration with a "reset to industry average" at the mid-point....
(also the AMR TA rate has top Maddog CA at 167.... As of Jan. 1 DL Maddog CA will be 194, yuk)

hockeypilot44 11-08-2012 07:35 AM

I'm showing 12 year American pay on the maddog at $110/hour. You would have to be on 6th year pay here to equal that.


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