Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > Delta
Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta? >

Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Search

Notices

Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-28-2012 | 04:47 PM
  #116561  
Bucking Bar's Avatar
Can't abide NAI
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 12,078
Likes: 15
From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Default

Originally Posted by Check Essential
I just don't get it.
Virgin gets 21 flights a week and we get 7.
The population of the US is 310 million. The population of Australia is 22 million.

Why would we agree to this? Why does Delta agree to this?
Just wait until we see the Atlantic side of this deal. We want Heathrow access.

I will go ahead and forecast a big displacement bid on the next 365 "Advanced Entitlement" in February, or whenever it comes down. No need to keep our widebody jets staffed at current levels.

Last edited by Bucking Bar; 11-28-2012 at 04:59 PM.
Old 11-28-2012 | 04:48 PM
  #116562  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 633
Likes: 0
From: A big one that looks like a little one
Default

Originally Posted by buzzpat
Man, there's a lot of butt hurt on here lately.

It's a frikkin PA! Man up. Sheesh.
Old 11-28-2012 | 04:49 PM
  #116563  
Bucking Bar's Avatar
Can't abide NAI
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 12,078
Likes: 15
From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Default

Originally Posted by buzzpat
Man, there's a lot of butt hurt on here lately.

It's a frikkin PA! Man up. Sheesh.
... and the way I read our schedule, three quarters of them will be done in a foreign accent, or by Alaska pilots.
Old 11-28-2012 | 05:27 PM
  #116564  
Check Essential's Avatar
Works Every Weekend
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,506
Likes: 0
From: 737 ATL
Default

Delta international wide body flying is being systematically outsourced and DALPA seems to be overjoyed with their great success in facilitating that process.
What the he|| am I missing?
It seems to me these Joint Ventures and codeshares are a disaster.
The union says the company doesn't need our permission to do this stuff and its wonderful that we are able to achieve some protections. Excuse me but it puts our stamp of approval on the elimination of our jobs. It makes no sense at all. We should be fighting these things with all our strength.
Somebody please explain to me why the US airline representing over 80% of the combined populations of our two countries only gets 25% of the flying?
Why does DALPA think that's such a great deal for us?
Old 11-28-2012 | 05:32 PM
  #116565  
80ktsClamp's Avatar
Da Hudge
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,473
Likes: 0
From: Poodle Whisperer
Default

My understanding the MEC is getting interpretation from the company on exactly what they mean by the PA bulletin. I would expect some sort of a response in the coming days once the company clarifies their position.
Old 11-28-2012 | 05:33 PM
  #116566  
80ktsClamp's Avatar
Da Hudge
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,473
Likes: 0
From: Poodle Whisperer
Default

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
... and the way I read our schedule, three quarters of them will be done in a foreign accent, or by Alaska pilots.
Considering the way our regional carriers operate, those guys are going to get A LOT of practice!
Old 11-28-2012 | 05:35 PM
  #116567  
forgot to bid's Avatar
veut gagner à la loterie
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 23,286
Likes: 0
From: Light Chop
Default

the awkward moment when you realize, thanks to the hotel van driver, that the hotel bar and restaurant is packed because its hosting an underground swingers night.

#holidayinn

Last edited by forgot to bid; 11-28-2012 at 05:49 PM.
Old 11-28-2012 | 05:36 PM
  #116568  
Purple Drank's Avatar
Straight QOL, homie
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,202
Likes: 1
From: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator
Default

Originally Posted by buzzpat

It's a frikkin PA! Man up. Sheesh.
I think we need to do a better job of looking down the road here.

Sure, at this brief moment, we enjoy a relative detente with the CEO.

Look around us today (AA, UAL, USAir, JetFU, UPS, even FedEx to some extent), and reflect on our own history. A management group that works with and respects its pilots is a very rare animal.

Nowhere else recently has a pilot group enjoyed the relative respect of management and/or a comparatively decent contract. Southwest is, of course, the blaring exception. But even they are turning into more of a "legacy" every minute, both in terms of costs and in terms of an increasingly antagonistic pilot/management relationship (that comes along with cutting costs).

Based purely on lessons of the past, our relatively good relationship with our leadership won't last.

So while some of the Widgeteers wonder aghast how a Delta pilot could possibly take exception to the company's PA edict, I look at it a different way.

When (and it's a "WHEN," not an "IF") we have a harsher management team, we don't want to be on record as merrily bending over for whatever they ram up our asses, whether it's been negotiated in the contract or not.

To those of us who think Delta loves us, who think we are beholden to follow wherever management herds us, I say: WAKE UP.

Like Scoop said: We are nothing more than a cost to be minimized (or steamrolled or taken advantage of). Let's not forget it.
Old 11-28-2012 | 05:40 PM
  #116569  
Dirtdiver's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 791
Likes: 0
From: 767A
Default

Originally Posted by GunshipGuy

But I think you're on to something: military folks always wore their hats. But their leaders did as well. So we just need RA and the boys to start wearing management uniforms with hats and set the example. All will be right with the world.
Point of order, we never wore our hats indoors.

And I didn't wear the "wheel hat" for 23 years after it went flying on commissioning day
Old 11-28-2012 | 05:40 PM
  #116570  
80ktsClamp's Avatar
Da Hudge
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,473
Likes: 0
From: Poodle Whisperer
Default

Purple, have you ever made a positive post? Ever?
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
On Autopilot
Regional
22617
11-05-2021 07:03 AM
AeroCrewSolut
Delta
153
08-14-2018 12:18 PM
Bill Lumberg
Major
71
06-13-2012 08:36 AM
Quagmire
Major
253
04-16-2011 06:19 AM
JiffyLube
Major
12
03-07-2008 04:27 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices