Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-04-2013 | 04:33 PM
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01-04-2013 | 04:35 PM
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It is reported from multiple sources that ALPA National Staff attorneys are providing our Reps the opinion that ALPA National did nothing wrong when they allowed Pinnacle to do a deal exclusively with Delta management without even a courtesy call to our MEC.
Further, to defend this malfeasance with a "Pinnacle's changes to your Section 1 are none of your business" type argument, they are interpreting our scope very, very, narrowly.
I submit that ALPA National Attorneys are not even ALPA members. They are not pilots, do not pay dues and have no right of representation by our Reps. They are staff counsel with a hell of a conflict of interest. A conflict which they should ethically stated up front.
Further, to defend this malfeasance with a "Pinnacle's changes to your Section 1 are none of your business" type argument, they are interpreting our scope very, very, narrowly.
I submit that ALPA National Attorneys are not even ALPA members. They are not pilots, do not pay dues and have no right of representation by our Reps. They are staff counsel with a hell of a conflict of interest. A conflict which they should ethically stated up front.
01-04-2013 | 04:55 PM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
No.
It is just a natural characteristic of highly autocratic power structures to ignore the rules when the rules don't suit them.
In the past I have defended our union's mechanisms to resolve conflicts of interest internally. Now I am defending our Constitution and Bylaws with the hope we can resolve our problems and avoid handing a winning platform to ALPA's enemies.
It is just a natural characteristic of highly autocratic power structures to ignore the rules when the rules don't suit them.
In the past I have defended our union's mechanisms to resolve conflicts of interest internally. Now I am defending our Constitution and Bylaws with the hope we can resolve our problems and avoid handing a winning platform to ALPA's enemies.
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01-04-2013 | 05:20 PM
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No.
It is just a natural characteristic of highly autocratic power structures to ignore the rules when the rules don't suit them.
In the past I have defended our union's mechanisms to resolve conflicts of interest internally. Now I am defending our Constitution and Bylaws with the hope we can resolve our problems and avoid handing a winning platform to ALPA's enemies.
It is just a natural characteristic of highly autocratic power structures to ignore the rules when the rules don't suit them.
In the past I have defended our union's mechanisms to resolve conflicts of interest internally. Now I am defending our Constitution and Bylaws with the hope we can resolve our problems and avoid handing a winning platform to ALPA's enemies.
01-04-2013 | 05:35 PM
Straight QOL, homie
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Why again do we need ALPA? For ALPA "legal?" Ha.
Why are we sending our money to National? We must at or near the top of dues-producing groups. If that doesn't buy us some extra consideration, then it's time to bail.
I'm tired of hearing about how "no other representation can be as effective on Day 1 as ALPA."
What exactly about ALPA is even the slightest bit "effective?" If Delta pilots are refused a seat at the table to discuss our scope...that's pretty damn ineffective.
Why are we sending our money to National? We must at or near the top of dues-producing groups. If that doesn't buy us some extra consideration, then it's time to bail.
I'm tired of hearing about how "no other representation can be as effective on Day 1 as ALPA."
What exactly about ALPA is even the slightest bit "effective?" If Delta pilots are refused a seat at the table to discuss our scope...that's pretty damn ineffective.
01-04-2013 | 05:39 PM
Straight QOL, homie
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From: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator
if Delta pilots can't get help from national, we don't need to be sending them any more money.
I'm sure dues from Pinnacle will allow Moak et. al. to continue their ridiculously extravagant standard of living.
01-04-2013 | 05:48 PM
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It is reported from multiple sources that ALPA National Staff attorneys are providing our Reps the opinion that ALPA National did nothing wrong when they allowed Pinnacle to do a deal exclusively with Delta management without even a courtesy call to our MEC.
Further, to defend this malfeasance with a "Pinnacle's changes to your Section 1 are none of your business" type argument, they are interpreting our scope very, very, narrowly.
I submit that ALPA National Attorneys are not even ALPA members. They are not pilots, do not pay dues and have no right of representation by our Reps. They are staff counsel with a hell of a conflict of interest. A conflict which they should ethically stated up front.
Further, to defend this malfeasance with a "Pinnacle's changes to your Section 1 are none of your business" type argument, they are interpreting our scope very, very, narrowly.
I submit that ALPA National Attorneys are not even ALPA members. They are not pilots, do not pay dues and have no right of representation by our Reps. They are staff counsel with a hell of a conflict of interest. A conflict which they should ethically stated up front.
01-04-2013 | 05:52 PM
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From: Light Chop
No.
It is just a natural characteristic of highly autocratic power structures to ignore the rules when the rules don't suit them.
In the past I have defended our union's mechanisms to resolve conflicts of interest internally. Now I am defending our Constitution and Bylaws with the hope we can resolve our problems and avoid handing a winning platform to ALPA's enemies.
It is just a natural characteristic of highly autocratic power structures to ignore the rules when the rules don't suit them.
In the past I have defended our union's mechanisms to resolve conflicts of interest internally. Now I am defending our Constitution and Bylaws with the hope we can resolve our problems and avoid handing a winning platform to ALPA's enemies.
01-04-2013 | 05:53 PM
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No.
It is just a natural characteristic of highly autocratic power structures to ignore the rules when the rules don't suit them.
In the past I have defended our union's mechanisms to resolve conflicts of interest internally. Now I am defending our Constitution and Bylaws with the hope we can resolve our problems and avoid handing a winning platform to ALPA's enemies.
It is just a natural characteristic of highly autocratic power structures to ignore the rules when the rules don't suit them.
In the past I have defended our union's mechanisms to resolve conflicts of interest internally. Now I am defending our Constitution and Bylaws with the hope we can resolve our problems and avoid handing a winning platform to ALPA's enemies.
01-04-2013 | 05:54 PM
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I went to grab some popcorn for this, but I think I will eat a doughnut
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