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Old 04-25-2013 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
I have heard this is why Delta utilizes so much cross-pollination when they doll out the DCI routes.

Who owns the DTW-MCI route? five years ago it was Mesaba. Now you have Pinnacle, Compass, SkyWest, and Shuttle all flying that route on any given day. One goes on strike? Change some flight numbers and nobody's the wiser.

Of course, when you have five aircraft on the fence at LGA, all wearing different names, you have some big problems when an IROP hits.

Speaking of which...

Nicely done Boomer!!!!

Wait, there are two there right??
Old 04-25-2013 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
I have heard this is why Delta utilizes so much cross-pollination when they doll out the DCI routes.

Who owns the DTW-MCI route? five years ago it was Mesaba. Now you have Pinnacle, Compass, SkyWest, and Shuttle all flying that route on any given day. One goes on strike? Change some flight numbers and nobody's the wiser.

Of course, when you have five aircraft on the fence at LGA, all wearing different names, you have some big problems when an IROP hits.

Speaking of which...
If I remember correctly, that is a Jesse stock photo. Boomer, that's a copyright infringement.

I was being serious about my how do you tell what is struck work questions. I don't know why noone fielded that ball. For example, in the absolutely unlikely event DAL pilots went on strike and DAL rebooked a passenger on USair, is that flying struck work?

I don't know the answers to any of these types of questions. I remember when Comair was on strike, we called the DALPA control center and got the all green for each flight. However, as time has gone on, the question has become cloudier.

While the RLA hamstrings us in many regards, not knowing clearly what is or is not struck work is an issue we have assisted in creating. Without the CREDIBLE threat of a strike - a strike that actually has teeth and stops the company in its tracks - we really have no big gun. IOW, we are at the mercy of the company's negotiators.

So, we have ceded the big gun. Scabs are a thing of the past. Strike threats have no teeth. I could negotiate against us with that backdrop.
Old 04-25-2013 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Test test...........
Hey, stop it! That test tickles!

And Free Jesse!

(is it Friday already? Thanks Boomer!)
Old 04-25-2013 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
If I remember correctly, that is a Jesse stock photo. Boomer, that's a copyright infringement.
Jesse has been to the end of the Internet twice. It was bound to happen eventually.

Will you accept this one as an apology?

Old 04-25-2013 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sinca3
Great quote:

"AirTran had half its capacity in Atlanta in an operation that was “not successful,” Chief Executive Gary Kelly said. "

Sooo.. we buy an airline and crow about how we're getting access to ATL. Then we drop the hub operation which was the linchpin to Airtran and their traffic, and focus on O/D traffic? Which will work great, because there's no one else flying people out of ATL.
Old 04-25-2013 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
Sooo.. we're dropped the hub operation and focusing on O/D traffic? Which will work great, because there's no one else flying people out of ATL.
Actually flying out of Atlanta is a little brutal, price wise, for we business folks that buy our own tickets. I always fly Delta, but most of my associates were deep into the AirTran easy upgrades. If your travel is mostly regional it is difficult to become frequent flier royalty.
Old 04-25-2013 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sinca3
What LUV is doing is not going head to head with Delta, but attacking them in DAL's secondary markets. So far DAL is doing quite well with this attempt, but it is where LUV seeks weakness.
Old 04-25-2013 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Glad to see you back, Ferdness!
Originally Posted by buzzpat
Coming in garbled and unreasonable......
Originally Posted by Timbo
Hey, stop it! That test tickles!

And Free Jesse!

(is it Friday already? Thanks Boomer!)

Thanks boyz, don't change your password and email address at the same time

Thanks again for the help 80.
Old 04-25-2013 | 06:29 PM
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Right you are BB: "I always fly Delta, but most of my associates were deep into the AirTran easy upgrades. If your travel is mostly regional it is difficult to become frequent flier royalty."

OK, so here's the issue; how is any Business Man in ATL going to get a free upgrade on South West?

And we know their prices are the same (or more) than Delta's coach, so why would any Business Man show any loyalty to SWA, with no Business Class to upgrade to?

I think SWA bought Air Tran just to shut it down and eliminate a low fare competitor, and get their International routes, and their computer res. system. We know they didn't want their 717's...so...why buy them, if not to eliminate them?
Old 04-25-2013 | 06:40 PM
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So the sequester delays are over?
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