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Old 01-10-2013, 11:30 AM
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On the Flight Operations home page, there is a link to "TRACS" that has showed up which appears to be inop. Anyone know what this is? Or a glitch in the system like the PVAC awards?
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:38 AM
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On the Flight Operations home page, there is a link to "TRACS" that has showed up which appears to be inop. Anyone know what this is? Or a glitch in the system like the PVAC awards?
I think TRACS is the new grading system for instructors to record grades for guys in training.
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:39 AM
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Does it really matter what people do and don't do on the basis of an award? If two people get the same favorable award, would you keep it only for the person that booked a avcation on those dates?

You get the award, it's yours. There are no disclaimers telling you it's not final until posted in DBMS. In this case, it's in DBMS, and they notify you of an award, which you acknowledge.

I've seen precedents where they re-run monthly bids, but those are conditional. I've never seen them rescind AE's or vacations once awarded. Is there a precedent for that?
That's my point. An award is an award. I don't see how they can rescind/rerun a vacation bid after awards have been given and acknowledged. I can see addressing individual complaints but taking a week someone actually wants away from a guy who has already acknowledged it and begun planning, say, a spring break trip because the company messed up is total BS. However, it sounds like ALPA is going to go along with allowing a rerun of the vacation awards.
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:50 AM
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Thank god all of our umpteen codeshare/joint venture partners will be able to pick up the slack.

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Old 01-10-2013, 11:59 AM
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Can airliners really fly upside down? - CNN.com


"Flight" director Robert Zemeckis, creator of the "Back to the Future" series, enjoyed a bit of artistic license here, said Larry Goodrich, the film's pilot consultant.
Goodrich, a 32-year pilot -- first with the Air Force, then with Delta Air Lines -- trained pilots to fly MD-88s, which the movie's plane most resembles.
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:14 PM
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Can airliners really fly upside down? - CNN.com


"Flight" director Robert Zemeckis, creator of the "Back to the Future" series, enjoyed a bit of artistic license here, said Larry Goodrich, the film's pilot consultant.
Goodrich, a 32-year pilot -- first with the Air Force, then with Delta Air Lines -- trained pilots to fly MD-88s, which the movie's plane most resembles.

Well, Airliners can't fly upside-down, but since when is the Mad Dog an "Airliner" bwahaha! Mad Dog's gonna do what ever it takes, to get to Happy Hour on time!
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog View Post
That's my point. An award is an award. I don't see how they can rescind/rerun a vacation bid after awards have been given and acknowledged. I can see addressing individual complaints but taking a week someone actually wants away from a guy who has already acknowledged it and begun planning, say, a spring break trip because the company messed up is total BS. However, it sounds like ALPA is going to go along with allowing a rerun of the vacation awards.
Give me a break! The awards were all screwed up. The only way to fix it is to rerun them. They have only been out a day. They don't have to be out for like another week. I am sure if someone can show that since yesterday they paid for a expensive vacation the issue will be addressed on a case by case basis. If they left the awards as posted the vast majority of pilots would have no way of knowing if they recieved a correct award or not since changing just one week can cascade through a entire award. ALPA going along, what a crock, they are trying to fix it.
One poster put on here they he was screwed and ALPA would not do anything to fix it. They fix the awards and someone elses posts that ALPA is going along with a rerun and thats wrong. Reruning the bids is the only way to insure each pilot got what he should have held.
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:57 PM
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How do we slide vacation? I remember reading about it, but I can't remember where. I have been trying to find something on it on the company and ALPA websites to no avail.
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
Give me a break! The awards were all screwed up. The only way to fix it is to rerun them. They have only been out a day. They don't have to be out for like another week. I am sure if someone can show that since yesterday they paid for a expensive vacation the issue will be addressed on a case by case basis. If they left the awards as posted the vast majority of pilots would have no way of knowing if they recieved a correct award or not since changing just one week can cascade through a entire award. ALPA going along, what a crock, they are trying to fix it.
One poster put on here they he was screwed and ALPA would not do anything to fix it. They fix the awards and someone elses posts that ALPA is going along with a rerun and thats wrong. Reruning the bids is the only way to insure each pilot got what he should have held.
Absolutely correct sailing. The awards were obviously screwed up and pulled. The same thing has occasionally happened with the preliminary monthly bids. If we whine loud enough, the company will just wait until the last possible contractually allowed limit to post any awards.

BTW, I got my first choice of vacation bids (Two weeks over my anniversary.) During a rerun I may lose it and although I won't be happy, I won't accuse DAL or ALPA of screwing me.
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 View Post
How do we slide vacation? I remember reading about it, but I can't remember where. I have been trying to find something on it on the company and ALPA websites to no avail.
Read the PBS gouge. You slide vacation when doing your PBS bids.
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