Originally Posted by XtremeF150 (Post 1336135)

I'm not one that thinks we should hire just to hire. However I'm tired of being told what I want to hear just to close some sort of deal like I'm the last chick at the bar or something. If it was going to be like this I would rather have heard it last year.

Same goes for any JV's. Just come out and say hey this is good for the company but it is going to hurt you guys but we need to do it for the shareholders or something. Sneakiness leads to distrust.

Originally Posted by XtremeF150 (Post 1336135)

I'm not one that thinks we should hire just to hire. However I'm tired of being told what I want to hear just to close some sort of deal like I'm the last chick at the bar or something. If it was going to be like this I would rather have heard it last year.

Same goes for any JV's. Just come out and say hey this is good for the company but it is going to hurt you guys but we need to do it for the shareholders or something. Sneakiness leads to distrust.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1336124)

The company has clearly stated their fleet plan. It is to increase the mainline from the low of 720 jets to 796 jets over the next 3.5 years. They have signed contracts to do exactly that on the exact schedule they stated during contract negotiations. They have also stated that if the economy improves they could generate additional growth via slowing retirements and exercising the options they hold on the 737-900ER's. The planned 757 and DC9 retirements have both been much slower then what was projected shortly after the merger.

Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1336144)

There are a number of reasons we have not hired since 2010. Mil leave returnees have come back in larger numbers than expected, pilots are flying max hours, making us overstaffed. If every line holder flies ALV +15, we drastically reduce the number of pilots needed. My category NYC 7ER A, is pretty well overstaffed right now, as are the FO's.

Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1336144)

There are a number of reasons we have not hired since 2010. Mil leave returnees have come back in larger numbers than expected, pilots are flying max hours, making us overstaffed. If every line holder flies ALV +15, we drastically reduce the number of pilots needed. My category NYC 7ER A, is pretty well overstaffed right now, as are the FO's.

Originally Posted by Doug Masters (Post 1336152)

I flew with 3 captains last month who were on green slips yet wondered aloud why we aren't hiring. Um...:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1336160)

I will raise my hand and admit that I am guilty of trying to fly to the pick up limit - greenslips don't exist except in some mythical m88 day-turn-seniority category. I also fly extra in vacation months. However, I also bid reserve and try to skate too. IOW, I try to game the system for max pay and/or max quality of life. I would imagine between flying alot when I do and trying to skate when I do, I negate my effect on my category.

Does that make any sense?

Originally Posted by Doug Masters (Post 1336152)

I flew with 3 captains last month who were on green slips yet wondered aloud why we aren't hiring. Um...:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1336181)

Atlanta based?