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Carl Spackler 08-12-2009 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 660646)
Guys don't break out the champagne just yet - and here is why:

For years management has been saying how much they dislike the RJ - yet they continually purchased more and larger RJs..

727s, 737-200s, 737-300s, have all been parked, sold, turned into beer cans without any mainline replacement. Management myth - No acceptable 100 seat aircraft exists.

Watch out for this: Management will go to DALPA and tell them that in order for DAL to take advantage of this opportunity they must have 76 seat Scope relief.

Followed by: Our intention is to grow new markets with these 76 seaters and replace them with mainline. I have been hearing this one for years and am not sure that it happened. I think a guy on the DAL boards said in the last 10 years we may have grown one or two mainline flights, and only hundreds lost. :(
Finally: NYC will be the crown jewel of the Delta system if only we could operate 90/100 seat two class DCI service.

Will we actually grow mainline with this deal? Im sure there will be some more mainline flights. How many more DCI flights is the important issue.

I will remain highly skeptical until I actually see mainline grow. For years I have been reading press releases about new DAL service only to find out they meant new DCI service. Now when I hear of new DAL routes I think of Lucy pulling the football out from Charlie Brown and don't get my hopes up.

There is nothing wrong with a little optimism - but the track record on this sort of thing is not good.

Scoop

I'm with you on this Scoop. I think it is highly likely that DALPA will be asked for scope relief. The only question is: Will the MEC Chairman ask us...or just tell us afterwards?

Carl

Carl Spackler 08-12-2009 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 660696)
Make no mistake, Mngt. WILL OUTSOURCE OUR FLYING to the greatest extent possible.

Make no mistake...management CANNOT outsource our flying without our approval. Or should I say, the MEC Chairman's approval.

Carl

Free Bird 08-12-2009 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 660810)
Make no mistake...management CANNOT outsource our flying without our approval. Or should I say, the MEC Chairman's approval.

Carl

Wow, Im glad I now know that Carl, thanks.

buzzpat 08-12-2009 05:51 PM

[quote=ComairFO;660806]

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 660799)
That is your wife correct? ;)

A man can dream, right? The eye candy in the avatar is actually sideline reporter Erin Andrews from ESPN.

I was gonna say it was my wife, ACL, but I knew that ComairFO didn't know her so I was confused. :D Erin Andrews IS hot, by the way.

Fly4hire 08-12-2009 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 660800)
Maybe some NWA cargo route authority. That press statement was very carefully worded, and really skirted around the fact of LCC ever actually operating these routes.

More to come.....

Exactly - they don't have any extra WB acft, and no one is going to loan them money for them. They would have to pull them off of their Atlantic flying to fly NRT at a half the frequency per acft of Europe.

Denny Crane 08-12-2009 06:31 PM

I read in some article that the routes would most likely be Charlotte to Sao Paulo possibly in 2010 or 2011 and Phoenix to Tokyo starting no earlier that 2012. That's a loooong way off in this business!!:D

Denny

acl65pilot 08-12-2009 06:33 PM

[QUOTE=buzzpat;660823]

Originally Posted by ComairFO (Post 660806)

I was gonna say it was my wife, ACL, but I knew that ComairFO didn't know her so I was confused. :D Erin Andrews IS hot, by the way.

I know who she is, on here or the other board, someone has stated that it was their wife. That is all.

acl65pilot 08-12-2009 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 660854)
I read in some article that the routes would most likely be Charlotte to Sao Paulo possibly in 2010 or 2011 and Phoenix to Tokyo starting no earlier that 2012. That's a loooong way off in this business!!:D

Denny

Especially for LCC. Lets see what they do in JFK as well.....

Dash8widget 08-12-2009 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 660810)
Make no mistake...management CANNOT outsource our flying without our approval. Or should I say, the MEC Chairman's approval.

Carl

Thankfully, unlike the 76 seat grievance settlement, LM cannot just change the actual language of our contract. He can approve all he wants but a change to section 1 would need OUR approval....I hope :eek:

Boomer 08-12-2009 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 660544)
IMHO this has rjet written all over it. I think they owned most of those gates.
Also I bet rjet gets lcc's 190's. I personally think this is the first of a few changes up in NYC.

If Delta gets those 190s for Republic they won't be able to do announce anything until after March 2010. Per the ALPA contract, 20% of any new DCI jets have to go to Comair until March 2, 2010.


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