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Sink r8 08-12-2009 12:15 PM

You learn something every day...
 

Originally Posted by Fly4hire (Post 660555)
There is no gates or slots designated commuter - that's just how they've been used.

Actually, as I'm learning today, there evidently are such designations:

http://www.cohor.org/cohor_site/usr/...d%20gillen.pdf

Commuter slots are for <56 seats for jets, <75 seats for props
Air Carrier slots have no restriction

Sounds like we get 40% + commuter slots, based on what Bar wrote. The question is what size jets get put on the remaining 50-60% Air Carrier slots.

tsquare 08-12-2009 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by beer (Post 660461)
ACL FOR PRESIDENT !!!!

I feel like breakdancing. Finally som good news!!!

It has yet to be determined as to whether this is really good news. I'll believe it when I see it, but my money's on increased RJ useage...

Sink r8 08-12-2009 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 660567)
Since we have decided on the MEC level not to study the benefits of unity with Compass, we are not in a position to gain anything from this deal. That probably explains why there is not a need for more staffing ...

Consistency and persistence are qualities. This is more like OCD.

Bucking Bar 08-12-2009 12:30 PM

Yep. But it is not OCD when the threat is legitimate.

There is a reason why the GPWS can not be canceled with a push of the Master Caution light.

BigGuns 08-12-2009 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 660567)

So, this looks like more small jet flying to me. With the NWA merger Delta may have all the DCA slots it needs, so it might not have given up much in the trade, but still the sum looks like less mainline flying and more regional lift (or less shrinkage as the case may be).

Since we have decided on the MEC level not to study the benefits of unity with Compass, we are not in a position to gain anything from this deal. That probably explains why there is not a need for more staffing ... .

I think Bar is spot on....

alfaromeo 08-12-2009 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 660570)
It has yet to be determined as to whether this is really good news. I'll believe it when I see it, but my money's on increased RJ useage...

I don't know if we are using any of our unrestricted slots for RJ's right now. If so, then we could put the new RJ slots to RJ's and free up the unrestricted slots for more mainline.

Sink r8 08-12-2009 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 660567)
"While more than 40 percent of US Airways’ current LaGuardia schedule is operated with small turboprops, Delta plans to use the same limited airport takeoff and landing rights to operate a schedule with all slots occupied by jet aircraft."

OK, back to the slot stuff...

It's breathtaking how they write this stuff so that is absolutely impossible to assess what slots are restricted, and what slots aren't:

"...While more than 40 percent of US Airways’ current LaGuardia schedule..." tells us nothing, since we don't know how much of LCC's current schedule this transaction represents. Right there, we're one apple into this discussion about oranges.

In addition, you can't tell whether "the same limited airport takeoff rights" applies to all of LCC's schedule (since you don't know if they're referring only to the slots in this transaction, or not), or to just the 40+%.

Since Commuter slots apply to props and jets, we can't even tell the % beyond the 40% that UsAirways fills with small jets (i.e. because it's a Commuter slot), vs. large jets.

And of course, that all makes it all impossible to determine what size jets Delta would put on what slot. Never mind the fact we have Air Carrier slots that we ourselves might be letting small DCI jets use, which could be used for big jets as we transfer small jets to the UsAirways restricted slots.

I give up, because this is much worse than "a train departs station A at 12:00PM...". It's bad enough to consider making the "blh-blh-blh" noises by running my index over my lips and want to curl up in the fetal position as I softly cry myself to sleep...

Superpilot92 08-12-2009 12:42 PM

Delta is trying to get out of the RJ flying or significantly shrink it, i dont see them doing all of this to become NYC's hometown airline only to throw our passengers onto RJ's. Jetblue will just continue to eat our lunch with the business travelers if thats the case. We'll see

Superpilot92 08-12-2009 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 660580)
I don't know if we are using any of our unrestricted slots for RJ's right now. If so, then we could put the new RJ slots to RJ's and free up the unrestricted slots for more mainline.

good point

tsquare 08-12-2009 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 660585)
Delta is trying to get out of the RJ flying or significantly shrink it, i dont see them doing all of this to become NYC's hometown airline only to throw our passengers onto RJ's. Jetblue will just continue to eat our lunch with the business travelers if thats the case. We'll see


For you and alfaromeo.. I appreciate the optimism, and maybe I should not be such a Debbie Downer.. but I've seen this kind of thing at DAL before, and I'll believe growth when/if I see it. The floor's all yours.


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