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Originally Posted by FlyinPiker
(Post 660490)
I know we have some things in the fire as far as the perimeter rule is concerned. Maybe we are working at changing the below, but to everyone saying this is surely going to be a major win for mainline remember most of these aren't just normal slots, they are commuter slots.
Q: What is the difference between air carrier and commuter slots? A: At Reagan National, aircraft with 76 seats or less can operate with commuter slots. At LaGuardia, the general rule is that jet aircraft with 56 seats or less can use commuter slots, although there are some exceptions. |
I think the majority of these routes will be started with 50 seat jets either getting tossed out of CVG or being replaced by DC-9's down in ATL...then we'll go from there as the market dictates.
I don't buy that we would take a mainline jet off of a route that is already making us money and place it on new routes that were previously being operated by a SF-340, DH-8, or ERJ/CRJ. No need to come in there guns a blazin into a new market that is just being developed. With upgrades to all jet-equipment, our terminal, and the chance to build miles to use toward a variety of destinations we will already be offering a much more enhanced product. If demand calls for it, then maybe I can 50 seaters being phased out. That being said there was an increase of 42 narrowbody positions in NYC on this latest AE, and the articles do state there will be some mainline expansion in addition to connection service...the roots are there to grow grow grow! |
Originally Posted by thrustsetrj200
(Post 660497)
Get over it Mr. Sensitive. You don't have to answer my question if you don't want to.
I don't hate YOU. Don't take it personally. |
Originally Posted by FlyinPiker
(Post 660490)
Overall though I'm excited to watch our presence/product flourish in NY. I think it's a great move!
If I understand correctly, Delta can't indiscriminately add more 76-seaters in the system. The 76-seaters they have already are currently used elsewhere. So even if we assume that all of this LGA flying is 76-seat RJ's, then you have to conclude that many, if not all of the markets currently served by 76-seaters need a replacement aircraft (since they were important enough to see the use of a limited number of 76-seaters). The only options, with 76-seat aircraft being limited, then is to a) downgrade, or b) upgrade. If those markets deserved two-class service yesterday, it seems that it would be a poor move to field 50-seat or single-class 70-seat aircraft to replace them today. I would think one way or another, this helps DC-9 flying, and all narrow-body flying. In LGA, or elsewhere. So, I'm optimistic as well. Optimistic for mainline. |
Originally Posted by Sink r8
(Post 660526)
What's your source for this? I missed the term "commuter slots" in the press releases, which stated larger/mainline aircraft.
Delta expects to more than double the number of nonstop destinations it serves from LaGuardia by adding or preserving service to more than 30 small- and medium-sized communities. The airline plans to add new flights to more than a dozen cities not currently served by US Airways. In every slot where US Airways operates small turboprops today, Delta will operate larger jets. A CRJ is a jet, and it is larger. |
Originally Posted by Sink r8
(Post 660526)
What's your source for this? I missed the term "commuter slots" in the press releases, which stated larger/mainline aircraft.
US Airways | US Airways announces slot transaction with Delta Air Lines Transaction highlights
US Airways will retain a significant presence at LGA. The reduction in flying necessitated by the transfer of LGA slots will be accomplished through reductions in US Airways Express flying. The airline does not plan to make any changes to mainline flight levels, including its popular US Airways Shuttle service with hourly flights from New York to Boston and Washington. After the transaction is complete, US Airways will be the third largest carrier at LGA (based on peak day departures) and will operate up to 72 peak-day flights. “We are very excited about today's announcement which presents an excellent opportunity to strengthen our network while bringing more jet air service to smaller communities from our nation's capital," said US Airways Chairman and CEO Doug Parker. "This transaction will improve US Airways’ near and long-term profitability to the benefit of our employees, our customers, the communities we serve and our shareholders. The transaction is structured as two simultaneous asset sales and is expected to be cash neutral to US Airways. US Airways estimates the transaction will improve profitability by more than $75 million annually. |
Piker,
Looks like we typed at the same time. We offered two different views about 50-seaters, obviously. One thing to keep in mind: we also have slots. We surely also have slots for large aircraft that we've been holding with smaller aircraft. We can substitute with larger aircrat into our own slots, assuming there really are two kinds of slots and assuming you're right about LCC giving us only "Commuter" slots. |
Originally Posted by BigGuns
(Post 660538)
This is the USAIR spin on the subject. They say the slots are "currently used..." as commuter slots
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US Airways will retain a significant presence at LGA. The reduction in flying necessitated by the transfer of LGA slots will be accomplished through reductions in US Airways Express flying. |
I am here and sir 757 stated it best. I live and breathe this stuff and can connect most dots. IMHO this has rjet written all over it. I think they owned most of those gates.
Also I bet rjet gets lcc's 190's. I personally think this is the first of a few changes up in NYC. Burn is correct we are doing a lot of work there. More to come. I bet this will be both rj's and Mainline. This AE should give some insight to that. Also not sure it is connected but Boeing has 61 orders for 73n's that they will not announce customers for. It is two orders the 700 would play nice. I am not inferring these are ours, just pointing to some of my dots an the wall. I just hope they do not move Mesa back in! This should put us at staffing neutral at worst! I would not say hiring quite yet. |
Originally Posted by BigGuns
(Post 660538)
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