Until ~ 01/2010 unless QOL means nothing to me. Don't get me wrong, never mind TIC, I do believe we are all collectively better off than either one of us would have done on our own. It's just not the "win" its made out to be - the upside is we will all be probably be able to retire from the same company. Better than many can say right now. There are 12000+ shoes here, and some do decidedly better than others (on both sides). Just saying.....

Got to ask, because I cannot find the old pay scales. What was the old DC-9 FO pay scale at 9 years?

We are all getting a pay raise in 2012. Or is it the earth is ending. What does the Mayan calender say anyway?

80 hours

dunno, i dont have the old contract available and i'll be honest, I'm going on to 3rd year pay so i havent payed much attention to 9th year pay.

again, its all pretty pointless to argue now though

Johnso, all the jets have headsets. Dave Clark. I just use those now, although I have a Telex.

Are you crazy? On that airplane your head must hurt after a five hr flight.

Nope, I take it off at cruise and turn up the speaker. I do, however, answer all radio calls and, if things are quiet, query ATC every 15 minutes.;)

So, anyone hearing anything about any amendments to this bid? Coming down to the wire.

You know I'm a Gator fan, and the first thing I thought about was not, "what's wrong with him" but, "I'm sure Ts will be happy." :D

Most anything is possible. It's the probability that you have to think about. Plus, you'll be pay protected, so won't that make up for it? If you don't want to fly the DC9, then put NYC MD88 on your MD. I'm pretty sure that'll stay jr, & it was something you signed up for when you took your job with DAL so you should be just fine with that. ;)