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Originally Posted by SailorJerry
(Post 1362105)
Alright I'll go look at the numbers again but they have decreased in the last 6 months. What percentage change of a 200 pilot group would you call "stable"? If it dropped to 150 in April, would that still be ~200?
And now that I've looked, here are the numbers over the last year 3/12 - 323 4/12 - 310 5/12 - 318 6/12 - 312 7/12 - 293 (4/8/3/3 duh) 8/12 - 287 9/12 - 279 10/12 - 244 11/12 - 234 12/12 - 231 1/13 - 232 2/12 - 218 3/12 - 208 So that's a roughly 33% decrease. Or a 1% increase in total staffing as of the 3/13 category list. Sorry dude. 244 is mid 200s. In fact we've only been in the low 200s since this month. Your numbers for jan, feb and march are different than that of crew resources, so I'm not sure where you're getting your data. If you're looking at ALPA, their documents are up to a month and a half prior to the claimed date of category list. There is a 7 pilot increase of pilots out on MIL going into March. My point was simply that it is stabilizing and will find a new normal. It will not continue to go down to zero. Let's see what the MAR update shows tomorrow for that and the projection for APR. |
Originally Posted by SailorJerry
(Post 1362105)
Alright I'll go look at the numbers again but they have decreased in the last 6 months. What percentage change of a 200 pilot group would you call "stable"? If it dropped to 150 in April, would that still be ~200?
And now that I've looked, here are the numbers over the last year 3/12 - 323 4/12 - 310 5/12 - 318 6/12 - 312 7/12 - 293 (4/8/3/3 duh) 8/12 - 287 9/12 - 279 10/12 - 244 11/12 - 234 12/12 - 231 1/13 - 232 2/12 - 218 3/12 - 208 So that's a roughly 33% decrease. Or a 1% increase in total staffing as of the 3/13 category list. Sorry dude. 244 is mid 200s. In fact we've only been in the low 200s since this month. |
Originally Posted by dalad
(Post 1362128)
80' it's not excuses. The company was going to hire between 100-150 this year, that's it. Over 100 have come back in the last year, and it wasn't expected. The last couple of months have been a trickle, so I'll grant you that. The good news is that there are only 198 B's left. The A's are mostly General or Flag officers who may never come back. Some of the B's as well, as I flew with a Marine two star once. There are also just a few over 200 furloughees to come back as well.
It will be interesting how many furloughees do come back. Like you said, there are a number of B's that are very senior military officers. Quite a few cycle on and off duty (tee hee) various times through the year. |
I only looked at the Feb & March Seniority list. There was an increase from Feb to Mar for NBC MIL Bs. They went from 192 to 198. So in March I see 207 NBC MIL A/Bs.
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Originally Posted by Express pilot
(Post 1362051)
Yep, zero flying for Dec.
1 2 day for Jan 1 2day and 3 3 days for Feb with 4 SC QOL is going down for ATL 88, I'm ready to bid off. This is what I would expect in July. |
Originally Posted by 76drvr
(Post 1362164)
80's ability for data interpretation and recollection is nearly always wrong. There are usually bits of truth in there leading to an invalid conclusion.;)
Right back atcha, Champ. ;) |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1361882)
Items are given up in every contract even the very best. Trades are made. There were lots of changes in reserve. No one posts about the good things. Over the course of my career reserve is the single most improved part of the contract by a big margin. We have progressed from 19 to 20 days on call 24 hours a day with 2 hours to report to the system we have today. It has ebbed back and forth over the years by the overall trend has been hugely positive.
I see where you are coming from, but I disagree with you using pre bankruptcy as a bench mark. Comparing where we are to where we were just last year is a better way to go. If we extend your premise to the entire contract, it would be ok with you for us to take a cut in our payrates in our next contract. I mean as long as they remained above what they were after bankruptcy, right? If it seems as though I'm picking on you, I apologize But, I really want to understand where you, alpha, pineapple, et. al., are coming from. By the way, why is it that you believe that items have to be given up in every contract? Why do you say no one ever mentions the good things? |
Originally Posted by PilotFrog
(Post 1362115)
For what it is worth - I just got off the phone with Flightline and was told that the Perdiem packages for tax purposes should be out in the next few days.
Originally Posted by iaflyer
(Post 1362120)
Thanks for calling and getting a update. Every year it gets later and later. Eventually they'll be arriving April 14th!
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Originally Posted by Schwanker
(Post 1362023)
I've had the honor to bring a fallen soldier home to their final resting place twice (AF jet). Once was to Saipan. Getting ready to check in on the local VHF freq about a 100 miles out and heard them issuing holding instructions to a NWA744, then another aircraft who was #4 in line. I was wondering what was up, until I checked in--"you're #1, call field in site." they had the fire trucks out with the H2O salute on taxi in. Every vehicle on the island with a flashing light had to have been on the ramp. Family was waiting right behind the honor guard. Everyone on the jet was choked up. It really puts our petty gripes in perspective.
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Originally Posted by F15andMD11
(Post 1361646)
OK....I'll ask. What happened with the 747 rumor? Was it complete BS?
I'll be careful not to post anything I hear again unless the source guarantees its occurrence within a few days. Carl |
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