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Dehav 03-01-2013 11:55 AM

In accordance with Section 21 C. 7. b. and c. of the PWA:
7. A pilot who has bypassed recall will be subject to the following:
a. he will …..
b. he may only return to duty:
1) in conjunction with a subsequent recall or new hire class, and
2) if he has notified the Company in writing of his desire to accept recall at least 30 days in advance of the class date on which he wishes to return.
Note one: The Company is not required to recall pilots in numbers greater than it deems necessary in a new-hire or recall class.
Note two: If there are more pilots who have bypassed recall that seek to return to duty than the Company has determined is required, such pilots will be returned to duty, in seniority order and prior to any new hire, in conjunction with Company scheduled new hire or recall classes,
and.........


I am not sure what contitutes a recall class or how it is determined, but it looks and sounds like it has NOTHING to do with hiring or new-hires.....

the recall class seems to always be referenced with an "or" in contract language.

I am unsure if flow-through pilots are not defined as new-hires though.

Sink r8 03-01-2013 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1362722)
The CA I'm flying with is wearing a long sleeve shirt AND an academy lanyard. (We're on a dhd). Let's see how the stereotypes pan out for this one. :)

I should preface it that he's one of the two known guys on this fleet...will he live up to his rep or will the stories turn out to be fluff? Find out next episode on As The 80 Deadheads!

The lanyard is interesting, because it sends the message, but deprives the guy of actually saying "Academy" in one of the first two sentences when he meets you.

Look for other buzzwords/key phrases during the initial contact:
"I do everything by the book" (he won't),
"...your flying background?" (won't be good enough),
a military rank (yours must be lower, or he'll have to justify his),
"...a lot of experience..." (ruining lives)
"A lot of guys..." (are taller than him),
Any combinations of words that takes more than about 2 minutes to deliver,
Any speech ending in "...but let's have a lot of fun on this trip" (trying to convince himself; while you're already plotting your sick call),
"I'm going to let you..." (fight the urge to strangle him, constantly),
"I'd like to think that I..." (trying to convince you),
"Because I'm a nice guy..." (fully yielding to delusion),
"...called out sick on me, which is weird because I'm a great guy to fly with!" (delusional AND insecure).

One point each, three points total to make a complete tool.

Ball Breaker 03-01-2013 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Dehav (Post 1362929)
In accordance with Section 21 C. 7. b. and c. of the PWA:
7. A pilot who has bypassed recall will be subject to the following:
a. he will …..
b. he may only return to duty:
1) in conjunction with a subsequent recall or new hire class, and
2) if he has notified the Company in writing of his desire to accept recall at least 30 days in advance of the class date on which he wishes to return.
Note one: The Company is not required to recall pilots in numbers greater than it deems necessary in a new-hire or recall class.
Note two: If there are more pilots who have bypassed recall that seek to return to duty than the Company has determined is required, such pilots will be returned to duty, in seniority order and prior to any new hire, in conjunction with Company scheduled new hire or recall classes,
and.........


I am not sure what contitutes a recall class or how it is determined, but it looks and sounds like it has NOTHING to do with hiring or new-hires.....

the recall class seems to always be referenced with an "or" in contract language.

I am unsure if flow-through pilots are not defined as new-hires though.

Agreed. Flows equal new hires. Also, if bypass folks want back, I don't see any reason why the company can't bring them back at whatever rate is desired. My guess is recall classes before any new hires, assuming lots desire to return. Best of luck.

johnso29 03-01-2013 12:18 PM

GS awards going out weekly in "overstaffed" categories......during the slow months. Me thinks the decision to not hire for this summer will be regretted. Will it be Summer 2010 again? :eek:

iaflyer 03-01-2013 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1362932)
One point each, three points total to make a complete tool.

Here's a few more:

"And at pickup, there was a different FO! He must of gotten sick fast..."
"My FOs sure know a lot of people on overnights, they always have someone to eat with..."
"Did you look at each volume in the Jepp kit to make sure it's the right one?"

forgot to bid 03-01-2013 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1362960)
GS awards going out weekly in "overstaffed" categories......during the slow months. Me thinks the decision to not hire for this summer will be regretted. Will it be Summer 2010 again? :eek:

For weekday or weekend trips?

forgot to bid 03-01-2013 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1362932)
The lanyard is interesting, because it sends the message, but deprives the guy of actually saying "Academy" in one of the first two sentences when he meets you.

Look for other buzzwords/key phrases during the initial contact:
"I do everything by the book" (he won't),
"...your flying background?" (won't be good enough),
a military rank (yours must be lower, or he'll have to justify his),
"...a lot of experience..." (ruining lives)
"A lot of guys..." (are taller than him),
Any combinations of words that takes more than about 2 minutes to deliver,
Any speech ending in "...but let's have a lot of fun on this trip" (trying to convince himself; while you're already plotting your sick call),
"I'm going to let you..." (fight the urge to strangle him, constantly),
"I'd like to think that I..." (trying to convince you),
"Because I'm a nice guy..." (fully yielding to delusion),
"...called out sick on me, which is weird because I'm a great guy to fly with!" (delusional AND insecure).

One point each, three points total to make a complete tool.

Ha ha, good one.

johnso29 03-01-2013 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1362965)
For weekday or weekend trips?

Going out for both.

cni187 03-01-2013 12:35 PM

Meanwhile when two guys find out during the Capt's intro that they both flew heavies in the AF it's:

Capt: "You Ready?"
F/O: "Hell Yeah"
Capt: "Lets go!!"

GunshipGuy 03-01-2013 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1362627)
Elvis you should be commuting to NY on the ER. 0 hours and 0 RAW for Feb.

Where are you in the stack there?


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