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Originally Posted by iaflyer
(Post 1368795)
What is it with companies Delta buys - loss, loss loss. (CMR, Pinnacle, etc). Why can't we buy a winner! :rolleyes:
And if you want to reduce capacity for your Capacity Dicipline program, you just want to shut it down anyway...right? |
If everyone is going to the 717 because of the nice glass and FMCS then they should be happy that the 88/90 are all getting the cockpit refresh. Start in 2014 end in 2015. Or am I not supposed to put that in?
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
(Post 1368642)
Thx for the reply. I really don't lump all the problems into one and blame the TA, though it's understandable to assume that from my positions and tone. I merely maintain that certain productivity increases we gave the company in the TA will have more effect on allowing the company to delay hiring that is being promulgated. My career progression prior to 2013 had nothing to do with the TA of course. None of the other items you list have any relationship to the TA productivity gains I'm concerned with, nor do I mistake their effects for those I calculate from the TA areas I'm discussing. And I simply don't believe some of your numerical summarization is correct or accurate, much is inferred based on YOUR beliefs on what is causal.
Anyways, we're both hoping for the same things and just arguing about angels on the head of a pin while we wait for those hopes to materialize. Without full access to both of us of all the data crew resources has, it's just two blind guys arguing about the heat they feel on their skin for half the day. You say it's a fire carried on a giant tortoises back as he walks across the horizon each day; I say its a giant ball of flame towed behind Apollo's chariot as he traverses the heavens. Neither of us is close to astro-mechanics of stars. Of course, I'm much much closer in my guess than you are ;) |
Originally Posted by Free Bird
(Post 1368793)
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Originally Posted by TOGA LK
(Post 1368594)
Valid points. However, being the number one US carrier to Asia with two hubs fed by another airline flying 737s and adding more CRJ-900s that compete directly with Delta mainline jobs does not help the situation either. In my strong opinion, this and the ALV bump to reserve killed any chance of hiring. Add in the over staffing before this TA and its truly the kindness of someone on the 4th floor 500 to 700 guys haven't been shown the door while every other major is preparing to or already hiring.
Couldn't agree more. I think the sales job was a little strong on this TA but after four contracts I have been through I haven't seen one that wasn't. We also did a little hiring after our merger but I am very happy and shocked that we didn't furlough at all after trimming the overlap from merging two very large legacy airlines. Not so happy that we are not seeing any forward movement post TA but more than that I am glad I didn't get furloughed after the merger. I do think though that once the deliveries of five(?) airplanes a month 737/717 we will see that movement we want. Not to mention the minute I try to say something negative about what my junior life is like at Delta to my friends at Mesaba I am quickly reminded to "shut up I would give my left arm to be in your stagnant shoes." So its that perpective thing that keeps reminding me to keep my "airline pilot life" expectations in check. It seems easier for civi guys to do over the military guys who never flew for years at a crappy regional to get the hours. |
Originally Posted by Free Bird
(Post 1368793)
"Virgin’s deal with Delta, which is still waiting for regulatory approval, sparked speculation that the US giant could ditch the airline brand Sir Richard Branson created in 1984 – an accusation that was vigorously denied" The theory there is that DAL would purchase the 49% stake in the company and sit by as VA's losses mount, then shift the LHR slots over to DAL as VA shrinks to the point of fiscal viability. Can't see that theory panning out, and I'm not even sure something like that would be possible. Anyone know how the slots work out in the UK. Can a carrier, such as VA, sell off some of there slots as a way to bring in capital, or do the slots get released back to the local airport authority? |
Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
(Post 1368803)
hmmm... guess who has 12 747-400's, which is very close to 11
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
(Post 1368795)
What is it with companies Delta buys - loss, loss loss. (CMR, Pinnacle, etc). Why can't we buy a winner! :rolleyes:
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Just for fun, looked at 717A ATL. I'm 25xx and there is one above me with 717A as first choice... was a bit surprised at that... I get that being no. 1 is kewl... just not 25yrs kewl at that pay rate (even with GS's)!
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
(Post 1368799)
If everyone is going to the 717 because of the nice glass and FMCS then they should be happy that the 88/90 are all getting the cockpit refresh. Start in 2014 end in 2015. Or am I not supposed to put that in?
From what I calculated from my W2 my pay on the 717 will equal what I made last year before the contract. |
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