Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-02-2013 | 07:33 AM
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The term "concessionary" was an inaccurate portrayal. I should have said "inadequate."
I don't think the company should be able to get in our chili on medical matters, period. We have sick time. We should get to use it when we need it without harassment. The end.
I suppose something like the 15 consecutive day verification is understandable, but how can they trust us to fly the plane while micromanaging our sick usage?
I suppose there are the abusers that make it necessary.
In any case, I absolutely abhor the notion that the company can get into our medical records. I hope ALPA goes to the mat with the legal team to prevent this from a HIPPA standpoint. But I won't hold my breath. Hopefully no one will press-to-test without a legitimate situation.
03-02-2013 | 07:36 AM
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true.
The term "concessionary" was an inaccurate portrayal. I should have said "inadequate."
I don't think the company should be able to get in our chili on medical matters, period. I suppose something like the 15 consecutive day verification is understandable, but how can they trust us to fly the plane while micromanaging our sick usage?
I suppose there are the abusers that make it necessary.
I absolutely abhor the notion that the company can get into our medical records.
The term "concessionary" was an inaccurate portrayal. I should have said "inadequate."
I don't think the company should be able to get in our chili on medical matters, period. I suppose something like the 15 consecutive day verification is understandable, but how can they trust us to fly the plane while micromanaging our sick usage?
I suppose there are the abusers that make it necessary.
I absolutely abhor the notion that the company can get into our medical records.
I can agree with inadequate. Actually, I can agree with your entire post. Thanks for clarifying.
03-02-2013 | 07:37 AM
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Sorry if I'm not thrilled about seeing GS's going out to the senior line holders while at the same time I'm maxing out on SC's and RAW because there is less than minimal weekend coverage.
03-02-2013 | 07:39 AM
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I think he meant that it's good in a sense it puts financial pressure on the company to hire.
The concept of everyone flying his assigned line and nothing more is admirable--but let's be careful about advocating for it against the status quo.
Could be deemed an illegal work action, and the company could subpoena this web board.
03-02-2013 | 07:43 AM
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GSs are great don't get me wrong but I think 1067 has a good point. If the 777/744 were massively over staffed but they covered all the trips via GSs and had no issues, is that a good thing or bad thing?
I say bad for the same reason I'd rather return to the bow wave, I want more people in every category, not less. Even if it caps the hours I can get paid.
Same with weekend coverage, if they can live with 50 during the week, hope about 50 on the weekend. That's increase the number of pilots.
I say bad for the same reason I'd rather return to the bow wave, I want more people in every category, not less. Even if it caps the hours I can get paid.
Same with weekend coverage, if they can live with 50 during the week, hope about 50 on the weekend. That's increase the number of pilots.
I like the bow wave system. Isn't coverage required lower on the weekends due to reduced frequency on the weekends?
03-02-2013 | 07:44 AM
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true.
The term "concessionary" was an inaccurate portrayal. I should have said "inadequate."
I don't think the company should be able to get in our chili on medical matters, period. We have sick time. We should get to use it when we need it without harassment. The end.
I suppose something like the 15 consecutive day verification is understandable, but how can they trust us to fly the plane while micromanaging our sick usage?
I suppose there are the abusers that make it necessary.
In any case, I absolutely abhor the notion that the company can get into our medical records. I hope ALPA goes to the mat with the legal team to prevent this from a HIPPA standpoint. But I won't hold my breath. Hopefully no one will press-to-test without a legitimate situation.
The term "concessionary" was an inaccurate portrayal. I should have said "inadequate."
I don't think the company should be able to get in our chili on medical matters, period. We have sick time. We should get to use it when we need it without harassment. The end.
I suppose something like the 15 consecutive day verification is understandable, but how can they trust us to fly the plane while micromanaging our sick usage?
I suppose there are the abusers that make it necessary.
In any case, I absolutely abhor the notion that the company can get into our medical records. I hope ALPA goes to the mat with the legal team to prevent this from a HIPPA standpoint. But I won't hold my breath. Hopefully no one will press-to-test without a legitimate situation.
Don't be fooled into thinking they can just call the doctors office and ask. Docs carry malpractice insurance for more than ODing babies and cutting off the wrong leg.
So what makes you think they have access to our medical records?
03-02-2013 | 07:47 AM
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Yeah, it's a great deal for the senior fat cats getting the GS's. For the the junior guys sitting reserve over the weekend it pretty much sucks because you know you're going to get used or put on SC. Sorry if I'm not thrilled about seeing GS's going out to the senior line holders while at the same time I'm maxing out on SC's and RAW because there is less than minimal weekend coverage.
Sorry if I'm not thrilled about seeing GS's going out to the senior line holders while at the same time I'm maxing out on SC's and RAW because there is less than minimal weekend coverage.
03-02-2013 | 07:48 AM
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Yeah, it's a great deal for the senior fat cats getting the GS's. For the the junior guys sitting reserve over the weekend it pretty much sucks because you know you're going to get used or put on SC. Sorry if I'm not thrilled about seeing GS's going out to the senior line holders while at the same time I'm maxing out on SC's and RAW because there is less than minimal weekend coverage.
Sorry if I'm not thrilled about seeing GS's going out to the senior line holders while at the same time I'm maxing out on SC's and RAW because there is less than minimal weekend coverage.Put it this way, in my new hire class they brought someone in from scheduling to give us a tutorial on GSs and how in particular this one SLC 88 A was scoring a 140-160 hours of pay per month. They showed you how rolling thunder worked. Note they didn't come in and say, "yeah, GS pay is where we have to pay you double time. It was a concession on our part, we hate it, and we're going to make sure you don't know how it works. Thanks. Next subject..."
03-02-2013 | 08:06 AM
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Don't get me wrong, I hold weekends off no problem, but recently I've been able to hold holidays off (Christmas in particular) without really moving up and it's probably because of the changes in reserves required formula. But when you look at the weekends and almost every weekend since 2011 and see 0 reserves and GSs going out, something's not right. I'll paraphrase the change:
The rocking new formula is neatly comprised of three awesome variables: (1) the number of scheduled duty periods on a given day, (2) whether the day in question is a weekday or weekend, and (3) whether the bid month is a summer or non-summer month. Additionally, the current rotations (which probably should just be called trips) in open time and a buffer are applied to determine the reserves required number. The number of "save the day" reserves available on a given day will now equal the number of unassigned reserve pilots on call for the entire day, without regard to the amount of open time on that day.
03-02-2013 | 08:10 AM
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They can't ever get into your medical records unless they are the ones paying for the visit. Even a physician is smart enough to not put any unnecessary information on a note. All a verification from a physician has to say is "I examined so and so on this date. He will be eligible for work again on this date".
Don't be fooled into thinking they can just call the doctors office and ask. Docs carry malpractice insurance for more than ODing babies and cutting off the wrong leg.
So what makes you think they have access to our medical records?
Don't be fooled into thinking they can just call the doctors office and ask. Docs carry malpractice insurance for more than ODing babies and cutting off the wrong leg.
So what makes you think they have access to our medical records?
They don't have unfettered access without consent--but we are contractually obligated to grant them access. The end result is the same--the company can get access to our health records.
It doesn't say ANYTHING about limiting their access to records from only company-procured providers. If they want records from your doctor, you are obligated to sign a release. And the doctor would be absolved of any "malpractice" claims since he has a release.
Read it and tell me again management doesn't have access (or can't obtain access) to our medical records.
G. Medical Release Requirement
A pilot who is required to verify his sickness under Section 14 F. 4. may be required to provide the Company with a written authorization for release of medical information(release), provided the release is limited to:
1. the specific sickness for which the pilot claimed sick leave,
2. the day(s) on which the pilot claimed sick leave and the consecutive day(s) off immediately preceding and succeeding the day(s) on which a pilot claimed sick leave, and
3. a Company designated doctor or other health care professional(s) and the Director–Health Services and the Senior Vice-President of Flight Operations.
A pilot who is required to verify his sickness under Section 14 F. 4. may be required to provide the Company with a written authorization for release of medical information(release), provided the release is limited to:
1. the specific sickness for which the pilot claimed sick leave,
2. the day(s) on which the pilot claimed sick leave and the consecutive day(s) off immediately preceding and succeeding the day(s) on which a pilot claimed sick leave, and
3. a Company designated doctor or other health care professional(s) and the Director–Health Services and the Senior Vice-President of Flight Operations.
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