Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1364408)

Hopefully it's better. When I came back from 5 1/2 years of furlough in 2008 it was virtually nothing. We sat through the first two days of an indoc class, made sure our paperwork was good, and we were out of there. I was dumber than I was 7 years earlier as a new hire. Plus, a lot of the system stuff had changed and I was going from not flying at all to the -800 glass.

In many ways, the "re-orientation" stuff should be more developed than the new hire stuff. In my case, it was free form. 'Course, this was 5 years ago and pre-merger.

Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1364402)

I miss poor Bill. I'd love to get his take on the state of affairs nowadays. :D

Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1364423)

Had an LOE on my first flight out of ATL this am. Right eng oil filter light on status page on taxi out which we reset. Then at cruise ATL Center says "DAL xxxx ATL tower says there was a lot of tire debris on the runway after you got airborne". Hmmm, ok, call dispatch, they know nothing about it. So we set up for a straight in 36R in MCO, and ask for the Fire Dept to standby and check the gear as we plan a full stop on the runway. So we stop and the Fire Chief says all a ok. Then I wonder, Hmmm, who was the poor soul who blew a tire that they didn't notify?

Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1364390)

"Re-Orientation?"

Is it just me or does that pamphlet have an Orwellian tone to it? :eek:

Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 1363892)

Roadkill,ever try the Neti-pot? I know it sounds silly,but I never leave home without mine.Forty years of suffering gone in a sniff.

Originally Posted by Roadkill (Post 1364460)

great to know! I actually bought one a few weeks ago but haven't worked up the courage to try it.

Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1363993)

See that's the issue. You assume that everyone that calls in sick is like you. I assume that most people that call in sick are sick, but some that call in sick, are not sick. I don't see how that's anything but arrogance on your part. The new sick rules give you every opportunity to use every hour of your sick leave with a developed, private rapport with your CPO. If you get sick a lot, don't stick your head in a hole and think its no one's business.

The issue at hand is the mechanism to protect the company from the abuser. Not you, not me.

You make some incredibly arrogant and blind claims on my "youthful" health, and how "great" it is, and while HIPAA laws prohibit you from ever knowing the truth, I honestly LAUGHED OUT LOUD at your sniffles. Get a neti pot and a doctors note on file with the CPO that says you have chronic sinusitis and burn every sick hour you want. Your propensity towards secrecy is the reason, however, that the company feels the need to protect itself. The new system allows you to be left alone, while the guy who's Facebook Friends with the CP who posts a picture of himself on a far away beach on a sick day gets fired.

I make no mistake on this issue. I know it and understand it well, and its abuse is present in the vast MINORITY. My argument being that's why the language exists. Hopefully NO ONE abuses more than 100 hours of sick leave per year - even though, now they can - as long as they aren't rocking out with their band on YouTube on day three of their 5 day. I see nothing concessionary or inadequate about that, nor anything concessionary or inadequate about our own individual situations.

Ed Note: An arrogant thing to say about this would be "Do all of you FPL haters post on sick leave? What's the difference?" Or "No one ever gets sick. That's absurd. Be sick on your days off" I don't recall ever casting a blanket on this mostly honorable and honest pilot group. But I did directly state that absurd, however rare, happens.

Originally Posted by Roadkill (Post 1364460)

great to know! I actually bought one a few weeks ago but haven't worked up the courage to try it.