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Originally Posted by finis72
(Post 1382128)
1979 through 1985, stood reserve many times, it was 24/7 when you were on call. I don't remember when they went to short call windows. You lived life normally except for no alcohol and I had a beeper. When the beeper went off you called crew skeds. I had a few zero dark thirty call outs and never remember feeling unsafe. The system we have now is way better in so many ways.
Maybe "we don't know how good we have it" isn't a valid point. Maybe "it really could be awful" is more appropriate. |
Originally Posted by SailorJerry
(Post 1382141)
That sounds worse than 8 days off a month, 90 minute call out, and unlimited conversion to airport ready reserve where you couldn't even go outside security (haha yeah right) flying 80-100 hours a month.
Maybe "we don't know how good we have it" isn't a valid point. Maybe "it really could be awful" is more appropriate. My old job had airport reserve too. You had to be in the cockpit within 20 minutes of a call. Reserve here is a cakewalk if you live in base. Commuting to reserves still sucks though. |
Originally Posted by SailorJerry
(Post 1382141)
That sounds worse than 8 days off a month, 90 minute call out, and unlimited conversion to airport ready reserve where you couldn't even go outside security (haha yeah right) flying 80-100 hours a month.
Maybe "we don't know how good we have it" isn't a valid point. Maybe "it really could be awful" is more appropriate. |
Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 1381104)
The "stuck chock" concept is one memo away from never existing again. As soon as the hassle/threat of latency equals or exceeds the hassle/threat for D+ there will be no more "stuck chocks" and if there are they just won't be unstuck until zero latency. This whole thing is about reducing pilot headcount. Period.
"work harder and/or more efficiently and we will pay you less" |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1382170)
Sounds like someone came from mesa! |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1381675)
Massive hit to safety? I doubt that. We used to sit reserve with a two hour call out all month. You often had 6 straight days of that. We never considered it duty sitting around with the only obligation to answer the phone if it rang. It might be a safety hit but massive is over playing it a bit. Besides 14/22 is not the new rule.
I will concede it was a bit stressful at times watching a football game while oncall that was going down to the wire. You never knew when you might get called and miss a great finish! What is the net max duty day, including all reserve time, for the new rules, starting from the beginning of the first minute of being on call? If its greater than 16 for domestic ops, that constitutes a change from current rules and its a change for the worse big time and would represent a huge anti safety concession to the A4A to help "pay for" safety improvements elsewhere and that is unacceptable. Defending that is unbelievable and I hope that's not what you're trying to do. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1382040)
When I was hired reserve was 19/20 days a month. It was a 2 hour callout all the time. Essentially 24 hour short call all month. Sometime after that we went to the window system. It may have been the 91 contract. The windows were 6 hours a day. Normally 8 to noon and 5 to 7 pm in my category. You were obligated for short call in the windows. You were on long call outside the windows. I don't remember how many hours you had to report from long call. How much we flew was just like today. It varied with staffing. I do recall that I could often fill up before the end of the month and get a few extra days off.
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
(Post 1382241)
When you were hired, you sat reserve less than a year. 5+ years and counting for me.
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Originally Posted by SailorJerry
(Post 1382127)
Yeah but I don't see them posting much anymore. Even ACL has succumbed to the ALPA brainwashing it seems. They tried to send me to ALPA "Charm School" in Herndon. Where they bury you in a vat of kittens and you're required to not sacrifice any. I guess he went. He loves kittens now. At least he may defend this anything but salient point.
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
(Post 1382268)
He's probably too busy answering his phone and responding to emails... Nu |
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