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Old 04-08-2013, 04:19 PM
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Union presidents, politicians and diapers should be changed frequently, and for the same reasons.
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Old 04-08-2013, 04:31 PM
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As far as CEO compensation is concerned, it's somewhat of different context there and depends on what you consider the role of our union, or the government. I consider a business to be extremely profit motivated, whereas unions and governments the focus is more on the represented indivuals be it citizens, or union members.

I guess on some level our union is run like a business, and that is a fact that bothers me at times. I drifted from the original topic and took it out of context.

I do feel as though our union's president is grossly overpaid.
Basically, what is the basis of a union president's pay versus say RA's or Timbo's?
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Old 04-08-2013, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead View Post
As far as CEO compensation is concerned, it's somewhat of different context there and depends on what you consider the role of our union, or the government. I consider a business to be extremely profit motivated, whereas unions and governments the focus is more on the represented indivuals be it citizens, or union members.

I guess on some level our union is run like a business, and that is a fact that bothers me at times. I drifted from the original topic and took it out of context.

I do feel as though our union's president is grossly overpaid.
That is a good point. I guess I feel both have had their compensation far outpace what I feel is reasonable sum of money.
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Old 04-08-2013, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead View Post
As far as CEO compensation is concerned, it's somewhat of different context there and depends on what you consider the role of our union, or the government. I consider a business to be extremely profit motivated, whereas unions and governments the focus is more on the represented indivuals be it citizens, or union members.

I guess on some level our union is run like a business, and that is a fact that bothers me at times. I drifted from the original topic and took it out of context.

I do feel as though our union's president is grossly overpaid.

If the company is making record profits, I've got no problem with the CEO making record compensation. Same for the Union Pres. If his PILOTS were making Record high wages, I've got no problem with him also making record high wages.

BUT...SWAPA 737 Captains are making more than ALPA 747 Captains.

My "problem" is when the Pilots are still working for Bankruptcy Wages, and lost their pensions, but the Union President is making Record Wages, with a comfy retirement package. He's completely detached from what the rest of us are feeling, pain wise. I believe that is why the President's pay was an average of the three highest airline's pay in the first place, to keep him motivated to increase everyone's pay.

What's his motivation now? Has he got any skin in the game?

But, if he Don't rock the boat, politically, maybe he can get a job as the director of the FAA or NTSB? Or perhaps a job as Lobbiest on K Street?

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I may been think incorrectly....pbs bidding question... If I click max credit...what am I asking for?
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Old 04-08-2013, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP View Post
Union presidents, politicians and diapers should be changed frequently, and for the same reasons.
Term limits for EVERYONE! One and done!

Go back to the line (or back to work in the real world, if you are a Senator) and work under the same rules you just voted in for everyone else.
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Old 04-08-2013, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo View Post
For more reading, google D. Worth and R. Babbit.
Not tonight. Game on in 20 minutes.

Everyone should also read the newly released ALPA financial reports though.
There's some eye openers in there.

Our union officials really know how to wine and dine.

We left a nice even $1000 tip for the waitress at a place called Sardelli's.

Name and Address
(A) SARDELLI'S

311 VAN BUREN STREET
HOLLYWOOD
FL
33019Type or Classification
(B) Retail-Eating & Drinking PlacesPurpose
(C) Date
(D) Amount
(E) Total Itemized Transactions$5,584
Total Non-Itemized Transactions$1,000
Total of All Transactions$6,584
2012 BOD Expenses11/07/2012 $5,584


edit: sorry. the formatting didn't work from the ALPA report

(not even a 20% tip though. You can tell these union fat cats are pilots)
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Old 04-08-2013, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential View Post

We left a nice even $1000 tip for the waitress at a place called Sardelli's.

Sardellis» Entrees

Overheard at dinner that night: "What's a recession? Why do those peons keep griping about stagnation? Waiter! Another bottle of the 1961 Chateau Latour...for each of us!"
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Old 04-08-2013, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential View Post
Not tonight. Game on in 20 minutes.

Everyone should also read the newly released ALPA financial reports though.
There's some eye openers in there.

Our union officials really know how to wine and dine.

We left a nice even $1000 tip for the waitress at a place called Sardelli's.

Name and Address
(A) SARDELLI'S

311 VAN BUREN STREET
HOLLYWOOD
FL
33019Type or Classification
(B) Retail-Eating & Drinking PlacesPurpose
(C) Date
(D) Amount
(E) Total Itemized Transactions$5,584
Total Non-Itemized Transactions$1,000
Total of All Transactions$6,584
2012 BOD Expenses11/07/2012 $5,584


edit: sorry. the formatting didn't work from the ALPA report

(not even a 20% tip though. You can tell these union fat cats are pilots)
How many people ate? How many meal expenditures were covered under on bill?
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Old 04-08-2013, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential View Post
Not tonight. Game on in 20 minutes.

Everyone should also read the newly released ALPA financial reports though.
There's some eye openers in there.

Our union officials really know how to wine and dine.

We left a nice even $1000 tip for the waitress at a place called Sardelli's.

Name and Address
(A) SARDELLI'S

311 VAN BUREN STREET
HOLLYWOOD
FL
33019Type or Classification
(B) Retail-Eating & Drinking PlacesPurpose
(C) Date
(D) Amount
(E) Total Itemized Transactions$5,584
Total Non-Itemized Transactions$1,000
Total of All Transactions$6,584
2012 BOD Expenses11/07/2012 $5,584


edit: sorry. the formatting didn't work from the ALPA report

(not even a 20% tip though. You can tell these union fat cats are pilots)

FTB

(A) Fong's Pizza
223 4th St Des Moines, IA 50309

(B) Retail-Eating & Drinking Places Purpose .... Crab Ragoon Pizza
(C) Date
(D) Amount
(E) Total Itemized Transactions $20 + $5 (beers for Captain, coke for FTB free)
Total Non-Itemized Transactions $5
Total of All Transactions $30 (split 50/50 between a cool Captain and a FTB now over caffeinated to sleep for a 6am go)
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