Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-30-2013 | 06:00 AM
Line Holder
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,281
Likes: 0
From: C560XL/XLS/XLS+
All this talk of Short Call, how about a longer call out window for long call? Are their detriments to extending the call to say 18 or 24 hours? With a slight extension in the call out time, I think a majority could easily sit long call at home without risk of getting burnt.
03-30-2013 | 06:02 AM
Line Holder
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 473
Likes: 0
From: Short Bus FO
That's the way it was at NWA when I was hired in '98 except it was only 18 days a month. I'm normally an early riser so I would usually be up by 6:00 am, run errands or work out and be up all day, and then occaisionally get called out for a trip at 6 pm for one of those "illegals" with a really short layover that gets back early in the morning. Don't recall when they started the RAP windows, but it was after I was able to hold a line on the DC-9.
03-30-2013 | 06:03 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 5,816
Likes: 5
From: retired 767(dl)
I do remember carrying a beeper as part of daily wear{ I told the chicks I was a Dr.}except for three "golden X days." So things must be better than that now?
03-30-2013 | 06:37 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,004
Likes: 0
From: MD-88 F/O
HAPPY EASTER!!!
03-30-2013 | 07:03 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 581
Likes: 0
All of us make mistakes, every single one of us! Yet to listen to the ALPA spokesmen they're perfect. They have never admitted when they have screwed up (and despite attempts at revisionist history, they have made mistakes).
For me, ALPA would have a whole lot more credibility if they were honest with us.
03-30-2013 | 07:17 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 633
Likes: 0
From: A big one that looks like a little one
Actually it has, considering several people here have been elected reps. There is certainly some influence that comes from the exchange and discussion of ideas, and those that took that outside of the intertoobz world have made a difference. I actively participate outside of forum world, some don't.
How's the MIL leave count? Still right around 200?
MIL dropped again. 5, maybe 10 numbers. Its more around 198 now
The category counts in general from April to May were bizarre - considering we gained a pilot from the February to the March seniority list. But we have real live retirements this month!
03-30-2013 | 07:19 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 745
Likes: 0
From: 777 Sim Instructor
Can you expand on that a little?
My recollection is that we had to be available twice a day for a brief window of SC (I think 2 hours in the morning, 2 in the evening), but I wasn't in an international category at that time. Then again, in international categories, as they stood then, you could pretty much plan your sleep and your activities to coincide with a slew of predictable departures within a fairly narrow time window. Assuming you flew at all: there was a time when Reserves were used for contingencies, not as unscheduled lineholders. How much would you actually fly, in those days?
Perhaps you could more precisely describe those circumstances where you sat 24-hr SC, six days a week, and were called out frequently, at very different hours of the day, at Delta? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm just asking.
My recollection is that we had to be available twice a day for a brief window of SC (I think 2 hours in the morning, 2 in the evening), but I wasn't in an international category at that time. Then again, in international categories, as they stood then, you could pretty much plan your sleep and your activities to coincide with a slew of predictable departures within a fairly narrow time window. Assuming you flew at all: there was a time when Reserves were used for contingencies, not as unscheduled lineholders. How much would you actually fly, in those days?
Perhaps you could more precisely describe those circumstances where you sat 24-hr SC, six days a week, and were called out frequently, at very different hours of the day, at Delta? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm just asking.
03-30-2013 | 07:35 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 633
Likes: 0
From: A big one that looks like a little one
1979 through 1985, stood reserve many times, it was 24/7 when you were on call. I don't remember when they went to short call windows. You lived life normally except for no alcohol and I had a beeper. When the beeper went off you called crew skeds. I had a few zero dark thirty call outs and never remember feeling unsafe. The system we have now is way better in so many ways.
Maybe "we don't know how good we have it" isn't a valid point. Maybe "it really could be awful" is more appropriate.
03-30-2013 | 08:27 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,026
Likes: 0
From: maddoggy dog
That sounds worse than 8 days off a month, 90 minute call out, and unlimited conversion to airport ready reserve where you couldn't even go outside security (haha yeah right) flying 80-100 hours a month.
Maybe "we don't know how good we have it" isn't a valid point. Maybe "it really could be awful" is more appropriate.
Maybe "we don't know how good we have it" isn't a valid point. Maybe "it really could be awful" is more appropriate.
My old job had airport reserve too. You had to be in the cockpit within 20 minutes of a call. Reserve here is a cakewalk if you live in base. Commuting to reserves still sucks though.
03-30-2013 | 08:40 AM
Da Hudge
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,473
Likes: 0
From: Poodle Whisperer
That sounds worse than 8 days off a month, 90 minute call out, and unlimited conversion to airport ready reserve where you couldn't even go outside security (haha yeah right) flying 80-100 hours a month.
Maybe "we don't know how good we have it" isn't a valid point. Maybe "it really could be awful" is more appropriate.
Maybe "we don't know how good we have it" isn't a valid point. Maybe "it really could be awful" is more appropriate.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
