Originally Posted by sailingfun

...We used to sit reserve with a two hour call out all month. You often had 6 straight days of that. We never considered it duty sitting around with the only obligation to answer the phone if it rang. It might be a safety hit but massive is over playing it a bit. Besides 14/22 is not the new rule. I will concede it was a bit stressful at times watching a football game while oncall that was going down to the wire. You never knew when you might get called and miss a great finish!

Originally Posted by slowplay

I guess that's appropriate since you were barely in kindergarten when sailing was hired here - but instead of poking fun you might want to listen and learn. You'll suffer through less self-inflicted head shots (like you did yesterday). Or you can buy into and spread the hyperbole. Either way, Clint said it best:

Originally Posted by Purple Drank

I just don't think 80 (or anyone) deserves to be lectured by the likes of slowplay. And for slowplay to basically out a guy's anonymity is a foul. There must have been what, less than 10 guys hired at 80's age they year 80 was hired?

Look. 80 is a leader. He adds value to the dialogue and raises everyone's game. He certainly doesn't need (or probably want) my endorsement, but I'm in his corner. Has he been flying for 35 years? Apparently not. While some would see that as a negative, I don't. We need fresh perspectives, not a stale "because that's the way we've always done it" approach.

slowplay is just a hatchet man. He has no creativity, and merely propagates others' ideas in return for a cushy gig with minimal work and maximum graft. He wins when he's dragged others down to his level in the gutter. Regrettably, I allowed myself to be suckered in, and for that, I apologize.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

Actually it has, considering several people here have been elected reps. There is certainly some influence that comes from the exchange and discussion of ideas...

Originally Posted by Purple Drank

We need fresh perspectives, not a stale "because that's the way we've always done it" approach.

Originally Posted by Sink r8

Can you expand on that a little?

My recollection is that we had to be available twice a day for a brief window of SC (I think 2 hours in the morning, 2 in the evening), but I wasn't in an international category at that time. Then again, in international categories, as they stood then, you could pretty much plan your sleep and your activities to coincide with a slew of predictable departures within a fairly narrow time window. Assuming you flew at all: there was a time when Reserves were used for contingencies, not as unscheduled lineholders. How much would you actually fly, in those days?

Perhaps you could more precisely describe those circumstances where you sat 24-hr SC, six days a week, and were called out frequently, at very different hours of the day, at Delta? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm just asking.

Originally Posted by Flamer

Real question here. Saw another trip go out as "reserve only". How is this legal under the RUO? Also, using ATL reserve pilots to cover Msp trips? Shouldn't there have been a green slip, white slip or at least using in base reserves for trip coverage. This has always seemed fishy to me. Check out ATL M88B 147 for today and help me figure out where I am wrong pls.

Originally Posted by sailingfun

When I was hired reserve was 19/20 days a month. It was a 2 hour callout all the time. Essentially 24 hour short call all month. Sometime after that we went to the window system. It may have been the 91 contract. The windows were 6 hours a day. Normally 8 to noon and 5 to 7 pm in my category. You were obligated for short call in the windows. You were on long call outside the windows. I don't remember how many hours you had to report from long call. How much we flew was just like today. It varied with staffing. I do recall that I could often fill up before the end of the month and get a few extra days off.