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Old 06-13-2013 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER
I don't get the arguments against LGBP. We all complain about stagnation or downward displacements. To me this is all alleviated withLGBP. It also completely rewards seniority. If Cal Flannigan wanted to do island turns on a 757 it would have cost him $40/hr or more. With LGBP he bids what he wants. It costs him nothing. Company gets rid of all WBs costs us nothing. Company adds 200 WBs it costs them nothing more.
Yup. Exactly. When the 747s go to the boneyard, a whole lot of people are gonna take a paycut. How is that a good thing? (And I am just using them as an example because they are older and more expensive to operate than 777s) Oh, that's right, the company might buy 100 more 777s. bwaaaa haaaa haaaa
Old 06-13-2013 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by sinca3
I can get to the July 2013 Bid results page and see all the A's are out but when I click on an A it gives me the authentication error page, same for trying to replace the A with B to get B awards!!
To see if you're doing it right, do as above, and then click on the ATL 777 A's, they were there when I checked an hour ago.

If you can see them, but not some of the other A's, then you are doing it right, but the others which are giving you the "Authentication Error" page aren't fully loaded into the system yet. Try again later.

Delta (lack of) Technology; using yesterday's technology for tomorrow!

Hey, at least they are getting them out well ahead of the 17th, which is the only date the company is required to have them posted, per the contract.

You KNOW they want them all done and posted before they go home for the weekend tomorrow at 4pm.
Old 06-13-2013 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Delta (lack of) Technology; using yesterday's technology for tomorrow!
Delta Announces Order for 100 Boeing 737-900ER Aircraft - Aug 25, 2011
Old 06-13-2013 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
You just explained why LBP is a bad idea. It deprives us of the means to capture the benefits of higher productivity aircraft. Whether the company wants to add seats without paying us, or keep seats constant, the choice is theirs.
blah blah blah. All 36 of 'em. woo hooo. I guess though it is great if you are in the top 500 and are 60 years old. For most of us, not so much. And when those super premium aircraft go away... and make no mistake, they will someday.... what then?

A steak dinner says that the 747s will not be replaced with 747s. So at least we did something right.
Old 06-13-2013 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Yup. Exactly. When the 747s go to the boneyard, a whole lot of people are gonna take a paycut. How is that a good thing? (And I am just using them as an example because they are older and more expensive to operate than 777s) Oh, that's right, the company might buy 100 more 777s. bwaaaa haaaa haaaa

Ever since I found out the 787 is about the size of a 767, and will probably pay the same, and the 737 is going to replace the 757, I have thought Longevity Based Pay makes a lot more sense for 90% of us.

What I want to know is, why doesn't the Whale pay a whole lot MORE than the 777? Until we change over to LGBP, that's just wrong. An airplane with about 150 more seats should pay a whole lot more.

Of course, as soon as we change over to that system, the company will order 100 A380's and 747-800s'!
Old 06-13-2013 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
You may be doing it wrong....

I just checked mine, it was there, and it looked like all the Capt's boxes had X's in them, and a few F/O's as well.

I don't do it as above, I simply click on the June awards, then highlight the address bar, go to where it says "JUN/jun" replace that with: JUL/jul and hit enter.

I thought my 70hr. line for June sucked....until I saw my 67hr. line for July!!

Gonna have to do some very creative swapping/dropping to make it into a 75hr. line.

Please can we bring back the 75hr. cap and bow wave??

Note that the URL is case sensitive. "JUL/jul". It took me a while to catch that detail.

FWIW I'm in the training center and was told it is being expressed as "official" that interviewing will start in the fall for classes in early 2014 at 30 per month for the foreseeable future.
Old 06-13-2013 | 10:29 AM
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Interesting bump in our stock, this afternoon. The only correlation I see is an announcement that we're on track to reduce debt to $10B in 2013.

Anyone else?
Old 06-13-2013 | 10:32 AM
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Simultaneous with Deutsche Bank presentation/webcast.
Old 06-13-2013 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TCMC17RES
FWIW I'm in the training center and was told it is being expressed as "official" that interviewing will start in the fall for classes in early 2014 at 30 per month for the foreseeable future.
Until I see actual new hires... It is just a bunch of southern cheerleadering!!

I do think they will HAVE to hire to stay competitive with UAL and AA.
Old 06-13-2013 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
blah blah blah. All 36 of 'em. woo hooo. I guess though it is great if you are in the top 500 and are 60 years old. For most of us, not so much. And when those super premium aircraft go away... and make no mistake, they will someday.... what then?

A steak dinner says that the 747s will not be replaced with 747s. So at least we did something right.
A steak dinner that the 747's will be replaced by 777-300ER's which will at the very least pay the same.
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