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Old 04-25-2013 | 05:20 AM
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Bar, it's my opinion that your over thinking this one. Pinnacle was in deep doo doo. They were run by morons. They were in bankruptcy. Delta found a way to control them. Delta found a really cheap way to buy them, insert delta management and be the lowest cost regional. This will allow them to negotiate lower rates with the likes of Skywest and the rest of the regionals. Smart move to lower costs. Cheaper regional feed means more money left over to line our mainline pockets.
Old 04-25-2013 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by hoserpilot
Bar, it's my opinion that your over thinking this one. Pinnacle was in deep doo doo. They were run by morons. They were in bankruptcy. Delta found a way to control them. Delta found a really cheap way to buy them, insert delta management and be the lowest cost regional. This will allow them to negotiate lower rates with the likes of Skywest and the rest of the regionals. Smart move to lower costs. Cheaper regional feed means more money left over to line our mainline pockets.
Cheaper regional feed = more incentive to outsource mainline jobs
Old 04-25-2013 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
And did we do this with Pinnacle and not Compass? Did it literally come down this way because Compass operated EMBs and CR9s were the choice moving forward?
FTB,

DL agreed to a guaranteed interview program with Compass last year for non flow eligible pilots, such as myself. It however didn't have any monthly quotas like the one signed with Pinnacle, at least none that were mentioned in the company memo. I don't think this was an ALPA agreement either.
Old 04-25-2013 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone

PS. The number one pilot on the proposed CAL/UA seniority list is a CAL LAX 737 CA.<----paybanding result.
Is that a bad thing?
Old 04-25-2013 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I'm sure those guys would have a tough time remembering how to tag a youtoobz video on a bulletin board. I remember the first time I heard Pink Floyd, I was in the 7th grade. As soon as I could get my mom to take me to the music store, I bought a Pink Floyd CD. His tone.... just amazing.
Anybody else hate 80kts as much as I do right now.....?
Old 04-25-2013 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by hoserpilot
Cheaper regional feed means more money left over to line our mainline pockets.
That's the logic employed by the "outsourcing is good" crowd.

Is it the proper role of a union to leverage outsourcing ? If so, who's job gets outsourced and how do we decide while affording all members equal representation ? After we sell our flying, then what?



The bottom line of my rant is that we seriously undermined our own bargaining position and there wasn't a peep from anyone.
Old 04-25-2013 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Anybody else hate 80kts as much as I do right now.....?
Why............yes...............yes, I do! He probably doesn't know what 45's and 78's are!!

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Old 04-25-2013 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by PinnacleFO
Where are you hearing we will be mainline? I hear we will have mainline managers but low regional rates and an interview to mainline in 5 years or more for most of us. Are plans changing behind the scenes?
Bar, thanks for your reply. I was of the understanding that PinnacleFO has. Pinnacle will still fly RJs within the scope agreement negotiated, and hopefully provide a better experience for the passengers than a typical regional would.

Pandora's box of regional operators has been opened. So how are we to contain the size of regionals?
Old 04-25-2013 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I remember the first time I heard Pink Floyd, I was in the 7th grade. As soon as I could get my mom to take me to the music store, I bought a Pink Floyd CD.
Originally Posted by tsquare
Anybody else hate 80kts as much as I do right now.....?
Tsquare -
You and me with our 33 RPM record albums are so ancient we belong in a museum.
Even Clamp is a veritable old timer if he actually bought music on CDs.
Nowadays he would be considered just another brick in the wall.

I miss my old vinyl, but I gotta admit - The kids these days have found a better way.
Having 1000 MP3s in my pocket is way cool.
Old 04-25-2013 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by hoserpilot
Bar, it's my opinion that your over thinking this one. Pinnacle was in deep doo doo. They were run by morons. They were in bankruptcy. Delta found a way to control them. Delta found a really cheap way to buy them, insert delta management and be the lowest cost regional. This will allow them to negotiate lower rates with the likes of Skywest and the rest of the regionals. Smart move to lower costs. Cheaper regional feed means more money left over to line our mainline pockets.

NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the wrong mentality. Cheaper regional feed means more downward pressure on us. Why is this so hard to understand?
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