Airline Pilot Central Forums - Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Here is what struck me.

First, is he doing anything against ALPA National's policies? No, he isn't employed by ALPA National. He is an independent contractor who was recommended by ALPA National.

Second, is he doing anything that would violate DALPA's policies? Probably not. He isn't a current MEC administrator. He isn't on the LEC. If he receives any trip drops for this business, then it would require some very serious examination. To date, there haven't been any allegations of DALPA trip drops.

Third, is his business in violation of any Delta employment policies? Maybe. This is a really grey area. My personal opinion is the Company might not be too thrilled to discover his "side" business is helping two of their competitors.

He has expertise to sell. I just hope his activities don't get him into trouble with Delta. They could.

If Delta has a problem with this consulting, DALPA and ALPA will have to let him hang out to dry. It's a independent consulting business.

Don't know who we're talking about here, but how is consulting for another pilot group "helping" a competitor? I seriously doubt if RA cares which pilot group "wins" in the UAL/CAL SLI process. What am I missing? :confused:

SailorJerry

05-02-2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1402435)

For as low strife as our SLI appeared to have been, and as difficult as the UAL/CAL SLI is going to be, they need all the help they can get. They deserve a fair and equitable list - I don't know why anyone would get aggravated over someone assisting to that end. You're not missing anything.

And I doubt he's getting ALPA dropped to help UAL. Has anyone checked the policy manual?

Justdoinmyjob

05-02-2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1402435)

The butthurt some guys have because someone figured out how to make mo' money then themselves.

80ktsClamp

05-02-2013 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1402179)

Yes, at slow airspeeds, Dutch Roll can be even more critical because the yaw motion used to induce Dutch Roll results in one wing moving forward while the other wing is moving aft. At slow airspeeds, the wing that's moving aft will stall while the other wing is at or near L/D max. When that's happens, the roll rate becomes extremely fast until you unload the airplane.

At slow speeds (all the way up to stall), the ailerons give you all the roll rate you need for this recovery technique. Those few sim instructors at American who were advocating this technique came from the fighter world, specifically the F-4 which (I'm told) had a significant adverse yaw characteristic when ailerons were used at low speeds. This technique was wholly inappropriate for a swept wing airliner that has no adverse yaw issues, but is very vulnerable to Dutch Roll. That's why as far as I know, that technique has been completely discredited by the NTSB and the manufacturers.

Carl

Thanks, Carl. That AA briefing was pretty good it seemed, but definitely overemphasized the rudder which I understood. I didn't think it overemphasized it so much to where you shouldn't use it at high alpha which is where it is most effective at assisting roll control. Did you you at least use rudder to keep coordinated?

Bucking Bar

05-02-2013 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1402221)

I channeled my inner Bar to beat him to the punch. It was fun.

OK Mods, I edited it.

Jack Bauer

05-02-2013 09:19 PM

Alaska Air connects Portland hub to Atlanta, DFW

That's nice of them to feed our largest hub. Now we can cut back some more. Or maybe we will fight for this route...by placing some of those fancy new 76 RJ's waiting for delivery on it.

SailorJerry

05-03-2013 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer (Post 1402601)

And when the 76 seater runs out of gas over southern Idaho on the way to PDX?

Agreed, however - ALK needs to mind their own business. Or at least politely suggest to their passengers that they give us their business.

This will be a great 737-900ER route someday.

Elvis90

05-03-2013 04:27 AM

BISHKEK | Fri May 3, 2013 7:41am

(Reuters) - A U.S. military refueling plane caught fire in mid air and crashed near the border between Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan on Friday, Kyrgyzstan's Emergencies Ministry said.

The aircraft took off from the U.S. military transit center at Kyrgyzstan's Manas airport, which U.S. forces maintain for operations in Afghanistan, the Interfax news agency reported.

The plane, used for inflight refueling, disappeared from radar screens at 3.10 p.m. (0910 GMT), as it flew near the Kyrgyz village of Chaldovar, the ministry said.

"(The plane) caught fire in the air and crashed," said an official responsible for the southern Kyrgyz province of Chuisk, where Chaldovar is located.

Officials did not say how many people were on board and staff at the U.S. transit center declined to comment.

The Manas base is used to transport U.S. personnel in and out of Afghanistan and has been used by other international forces fighting in the country.

U.S. military plane crashes near Kyrgyz-Kazakh border | Reuters

PilotFrog

05-03-2013 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1402659)