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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1403128)

What if its like 30 knots for 4 hours or more?

Then you should seek immediate help

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1403059)

I got some at kohl's last week for 19 bucks.

I'm sure if you really tried, you could get em for $4.99. Heck, might even get a double breaster for less than $40.

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1402996)

Any alternate suggestions for wool pants? $100 at Abbotts is unappetizing.

Go to a department store & buy a couple of pairs of Hart, Schaffner & Marx trousers. About $95, but worth every penny. Light weight wool that will keep you cool in summer & warm in winter. Most comfortable pant you will ever own. And you won't look like a cheap a$$ pilot wearing cheap pants from Kmart.

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Originally Posted by bluejuice71 (Post 1403156)

...but Kmart will ship your pants!
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McConnell tail Fairchild crew.

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1403130)

http://madbetty.com/wp-content/uploa...1313e1dd6.jpeg

Best.....Facial......Expression......Ever!

Caption contest.

"How many 76 seaters did they say they wanted???"

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1402486)

Thanks, Carl. That AA briefing was pretty good it seemed, but definitely overemphasized the rudder which I understood. I didn't think it overemphasized it so much to where you shouldn't use it at high alpha which is where it is most effective at assisting roll control. Did you you at least use rudder to keep coordinated?

No, it was literally a feet on the floor maneuver because using rudder at high alphas can turn Dutch Roll into a stall/spin situation really quickly.

Another misconception that this discredited AA briefing perpetuated is what you excerpted above:

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1402486)

I didn't think it overemphasized it so much to where you shouldn't use it at high alpha which is where it is most effective at assisting roll control".

Ailerons on swept wing transport aircraft are very effective at high alpha. Where they are not effective is at stall alphas and beyond because they are receiving disrupted airflow from the wing stall. Even this is mitigated in today's aircraft by wing twist or "washout angle". This is where the wing's angle of incidence is twisted lower as you approach the wing tip so that wing tips stall later than the rest of the wing which gives you good aileron control even when the rest of the wing is stalled. Conversely, rudder becomes decreasingly effective at high alphas because the rudder is increasingly blocked by the fuselage and receives turbulent airflow. Exactly the opposite of what this briefing asserted.

That AA briefing was a great example of a few training department guys going rogue and thinking they could apply F-4 Phantom flying qualities to a transport airplane without ever checking with the manufacturer or flight testing their theories. I recall the NTSB report being particularly scathing on this point.

Carl

In regards to FTB caption:

"That one was a little too loud...."