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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 1404156)
What training program would ever teach to slam a rudder in full opposite directions to the stop?
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 1404156)
What training program would ever teach to slam a rudder in full opposite directions to the stop? It doesn't make sense. By the time he added one direction to the stop, he already reversed it in the full opposite direction. The airplane barely has time to react to all that input before reversing direction.
But I think the gist of what Carl was talking about is what happens when or if a training program goes unintentionally outside the boundaries of what can be done. I remember reading a good article (which I cannot find on google yet) as the accident investigation went on that explained how all of this full rudder reversal stuff was known back in the 50s with the new USAF bombers (I want to say it mentioned B47s). It just forgotten over time and I think the notion that below Va you're free to do whatever you want crept in but of course this didn't apply to rudder reversal. As the article said that was known and taught then but over the decades just forgotten. To Carl's point before you throw out a piloting procedure for pilots to use it needs to be vetted for the aircraft beyond just whether it worked in the sim. We've seen that at other times, notably after 9/11 when I remember the use aggressive maneuvers to knock them down or what have you, which manufacturers quickly said "uh, no." |
Originally Posted by biigD
(Post 1404231)
All I know is the -80 wouldn't care. It wouldn't give a s ***t. All it'd say is "Stop it, stupid!"
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Originally Posted by brakechatter
(Post 1404230)
Done deal according to schoolhouse
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Originally Posted by brakechatter
(Post 1404230)
Done deal according to schoolhouse
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Originally Posted by firstmob
(Post 1404263)
New, used or:confused: info on delivery schedule
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Originally Posted by PinnacleFO
(Post 1404265)
I bet it involves delta trading in a bunch of our crj 200s to airbus
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Well, I say its a 757 replacement and 757-200 in general size, so 757 pay.
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FTB,
The control reversal on the B47 was due to structure flexing when flight controls being used. The wing would flex opposite aileron deployment, making the aileron a servo tab and the wing the aileron. That is an entirely different issue than the Airbus sudden reversal, which was commanded. |
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