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DogWhisperer 05-12-2013 06:24 PM

While battle lines are being drawn in the Global Airlines vs. Magic Carpet Air struggle for dominance, a Global Mad Dog finally fires a "shot heard around the world..."

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GunshipGuy 05-12-2013 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by zoomiezombie (Post 1408039)
My check was around $600. That's almost 15% of my dues for last year. I know premerger NW got less but I'll take that money thank you very much.

Mine was around $50. How many years did you put toward dues to get that huge payout? Maybe we can tell them to hold on to the next refund for, you know, time value of money. We'll reap another HUGE win.

ShyGuy 05-12-2013 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1408219)
ShyGuy, 2003 called and it wants "___ called" jokes back.

I'm sorry, but the line is still busy with the 1999 call. Please hang up, and try again.

80ktsClamp 05-12-2013 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1408243)
I'm sorry, but the line is still busy with the 1999 call. Please hang up, and try again.

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Flamer 05-12-2013 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by zoomiezombie (Post 1408039)
My check was around $600. That's almost 15% of my dues for last year. I know premerger NW got less but I'll take that money thank you very much.

You missed my point. A .01% pay raise would get most people that money back, or vacation that is reasonable, etc. I have never complained about the amount of dues I have to pay, just what I get in return.

80ktsClamp 05-12-2013 07:05 PM

When newK goes to the bathroom, man code does not apply to him.

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shiznit 05-12-2013 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 1408242)
Mine was around $50. How many years did you put toward dues to get that huge payout? Maybe we can tell them to hold on to the next refund for, you know, time value of money. We'll reap another HUGE win.

I only got $60~ change.... But I didn't pay into the DAL MEC during most of the years that a surplus was generated(and apparently you didn't either).

That guy was a member in an MEC that continually stayed under budget (and had 24J to help take stress off the MEC "checking account").

Now ALL the DL pilots have that same MEC structure with a continued desire to operate well under budget. The payout for 2014 excesses (should your reps vote to authorize a refund) will probably average around $250-350. Additionally dues are going down in 2014, and hopefully will be reduced yet again at the next BOD meeting.

block30 05-12-2013 07:43 PM

Where is Johnso29 at these days? Don't think I've seen him around here in awhile...

Carl Spackler 05-12-2013 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by Rogue24 (Post 1408018)
BS. Most voted yes, because though it was not the deal they wanted, it was cash in their pocket.

That might be why YOU voted yes, but none of the other yes voters Ive spoken to. Every one felt like they'd been put into a no-win situation by our own MEC. They felt like they had no other choice...which was the exact intent of that MEC administration.


Originally Posted by Rogue24 (Post 1408018)
FWIW, I voted No.

BS. I guarantee you voted yes.


Originally Posted by Rogue24 (Post 1408018)
I know you hopping mad at DALPA.

I know that's the talking points spit out by DALPA. Characterize all that disagree with the party line as angry, emotional, ungrateful and in need of doing ALPA work so that they can be properly re-educated. It's boring dude. Same old playbook.


Originally Posted by Rogue24 (Post 1408018)
You think talking to your Reps is a waste of time? Well e-mail em, have everyone email em. Give them hard evidence that the silent and no so silent majority want a better deal the next time one comes around. Change their philosophy, I try to every chance I get. Why? Because if they hear from many of us on many of the issues, they are going to see another side of it. If they get nothing, they assume that everything is A OK.

Another example of the same old tired BS. Reps do NOT matter to this union. They come and go. Our entire MEC and local union structure was ignored by Moak who signed on to change our contract with another MEC. Our reps are mostly good guys who work hard. But our union's structure makes them all but meaningless. It's not their fault. So save the whole "bring them hard evidence", and "if they hear from enough of you", etc. You sound completely out of touch with what's actually happening today.


Originally Posted by Rogue24 (Post 1408018)
Tilting at windmills on here feels good, but the Reps probably do not spend a ton of time reading this. On top of that, its 40 of the same posters. To make a real change in the way business is done, you need to be active and present. Stating they will not listen to you and its not worth your time is a cop out. You and others preach that DALPA and ALPA need to put effort in. Well, given the fact that may of the donut crowd do not contribute or provide feedback anymore, there is no counter balance to things. For there to be the change you desire, it can not be one or two pilots running and in most cases losing every year.

See above.


Originally Posted by Rogue24 (Post 1408018)
This malcontent quadrant of the DAL pilots need to reengage and force the issues in each and every election, and on each and every issue. Until that happens, the mountain is not going to move too far.

You'll probably get into a little trouble from your handlers at DALPA. You're not supposed to overtly call us names...you little NO voter you! :rolleyes:

Carl

Carl Spackler 05-12-2013 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1408084)
LOL! That was well done.

But don't forget, it was Delta back in the day who gave the mother the go ahead to stop using the pill and have tons of 50-seater infants...

Also, don't forget that it was ultimately we pilots that pimped mom out to continue outsourcing by continuing to vote YES.

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Carl


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