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Old 05-09-2013 | 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Not jealousy Carl, just making a point.
Then make your "points" without reference to me. Your posts are mostly sophomoric and embarrassing, so I don't like to be associated with them in any way.

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You and your airplane are of no interest to me.
Actually, you seem obsessed by it.

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(BTW... I don't know why I read your post, I have you on ignore)
I know why. It's because you don't have me on ignore. Ignore would have ensured that you didn't see my post. That's how ignore works.

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Old 05-09-2013 | 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
You're probably right, scoop.

Personally, I'm for more of a hybrid system like what UA/CO has. 88/90/319/320/737/738+717!!!! should all be on the same pay band... 321/739/757 is another logical band, the 767/753 could perhaps be another logical band, and then drop all the big dogs in the top tier one.

Someone is going to get very angry at what I just wrote. So, bring it on.
BB FO Speaking against the proposed resolution ... Pay banding makes it less likely pilots will change position, making it easier to staff the airline with fewer pilots.

Proposed Amendment ... require separate pay and pilot category lists for aircraft with different engines, eec's, paint jobs, winglets, antenna positions, brake linings, winglets, mode control panels, seats and / or cushions, so that everyone gets to be senior on something. Oh and we need a separate list for charters and maintenance test flights.

(after 8 minute pause while a pilot tries to get projector and MacBook working, and "teype d sew amendad" while the Local Council members shout spelling corrections and heckle the poor Sec Tres from the peanut gallery ..... the entire Air Force Academy Class of 1968 shouts in unison "Winglets is in there, winglets, winglets, right there, twice! Hardee Har Bar's redundant, no he said it twice..." )

Second? Do we have a Second for the Proposed Amendment?

Carl awakens as a result of the caucophony of pilots shouting spelling and punctuation ... "What? Yes?"

Seconded Carl Spackler, so passed Pay Banding resolution to separate pay and category lists in the most minute detail possible.

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Old 05-09-2013 | 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
BB FO Speaking against the proposed resolution ... Pay banding makes it less likely pilots will change position, making it easier to staff the airline with fewer pilots.

Proposed Amendment ... require separate pay and pilot category lists for aircraft with different engines, eec's, paint jobs, winglets, antenna positions, brake linings, winglets, mode control panels, seats and / or cushions, so that everyone gets to be senior on something. Oh and we need a separate list for charters and maintenance test flights.

(after 8 minute pause while a pilot tries to get projector and MacBook working, and "teype d sew amendad" while the Local Council members shout spelling corrections and heckle the poor Sec Tres from the peanut gallery ..... the entire Air Force Academy Class of 1968 shouts in unison "Winglets is in there, right there, twice! Hardee Har" )

Second? Do we have a Second for the Proposed Amendment?

Carl awakens as a result of the caucophony of pilots shouting spelling and punctuation ... "What? Yes?"

Seconded Carl Spackler, so passed Pay Banding resolution to separate pay and category lists in the most minute detail possible.
It's cacophony damn you!

Carl
Old 05-09-2013 | 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Your posts are mostly sophomoric and embarrassing,
You just described 99.9% of the posts on this forum made by everyone.
Old 05-09-2013 | 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
It's cacophony damn you!

Carl
All the junior guys say you seconded the resolution because you are on the 747 and you just did it to screw junior guys.
Old 05-09-2013 | 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
You just described 99.9% of the posts on this forum made by everyone.
I thought it was the goal?
Old 05-09-2013 | 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I thought it was the goal?
And we've done a damn fine job of getting there! Well done everyone! Now we just need that 0.1% It's crunch time people.

Old 05-09-2013 | 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
And we've done a damn fine job of getting there! Well done everyone! Now we just need that 0.1% It's crunch time people.


AHHHH!!! Shove it!

I'm in.
Old 05-09-2013 | 05:13 AM
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Lifted from the keyboard warriors on another site. LAX continues to add flights. It appears there are a few crumbs for the mainline folks as well. Congrats to those in the LAX base on the addition of a few more flights.

Delta is making more changes at LA.

New:
LAX-PDX 4x daily (CR9) starts 9/3

Added
Daily frequency on LAX-CMH(738) and LAX-IND(320). 8/20
2 more daily frequencies on LAX-SEA (all CR9) 9/3
LAX-BOS extended to 9/2 (73H)
LAX-MSY getting a 3rd daily flight 9/3(all 319)
LAX-TPA going to a morning flight again. 8/20 and going to 738 from 320)


With all the changes it puts Delta at nearly 120 flights per day.

two things, all this is in the Delta timetable and I tried to post times twice and anet crashed on me. So its someone elses problem now.



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Old 05-09-2013 | 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
You're probably right, scoop.

Personally, I'm for more of a hybrid system like what UA/CO has. 88/90/319/320/737/738+717!!!! should all be on the same pay band... 321/739/757 is another logical band, the 767/753 could perhaps be another logical band, and then drop all the big dogs in the top tier one.

Someone is going to get very angry at what I just wrote. So, bring it on.
I have been talking about something along this same vein as well. As was previosly stated on here, we have do do something with our pay methodology to account for the change from a final average earnings defined benefit to our current defined contribution time value of money system.
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