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Timbo 05-13-2013 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 1408839)
Not sure, but is NewK the little guy stromboli gazing?


What should you say to him at a time like this??


Nice watch. :D

And am I the only one watching the B's tie up the game, with seconds left, coming back from being down 4-1, now it's a game 7 going to overtime!

crewdawg52 05-13-2013 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1408611)
if you can fly an airliner, you should be qualified to vote for your MEC Chairman.



Or YOUR Union President

The Cavalier 05-13-2013 07:09 PM

This may have already been discussed but did anyone see the resolution passed by the ATL LEC where the reserve system would be moved to a straight seniority system? So basically what they are saying is that a junior pilot should now reach ALV+15 before a more senior pilot could be touched. Total BS. What's the motto? Schedule with safety?????

Justdoinmyjob 05-13-2013 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by The Cavalier (Post 1408882)
This may have already been discussed but did anyone see the resolution passed by the ATL LEC where the reserve system would be moved to a straight seniority system? So basically what they are saying is that a junior pilot should now reach ALV+15 before a more senior pilot could be touched. Total BS. What's the motto? Schedule with safety?????

That's the way it used to be. I don't really see the company ever going back to it. Not unless we give up HUGE back to them.

However, to ease your angst, I give you the triple underboob!

http://lolways.com/Portals/0/Images/...ic-con_101.jpg

Timbo 05-13-2013 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1408887)
That's the way it used to be. I don't really see the company ever going back to it. Not unless we give up HUGE back to them.

However, to ease your angst, I give you the triple underboob!

http://lolways.com/Portals/0/Images/...ic-con_101.jpg


She reminds me of my third grade teacher, Ms. Roy! Nice!
That was the first time my Dad ever came to a Parent-Teacher conference!

South Park- Nice. - YouTube :D

GunshipGuy 05-13-2013 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1408887)
That's the way it used to be. I don't really see the company ever going back to it. Not unless we give up HUGE back to them.

However, to ease your angst, I give you the triple underboob!

http://lolways.com/Portals/0/Images/...ic-con_101.jpg

That's the way it used to be, but without the PBS rules that allow bidding without hard lines of reserve, without ALV +15, without pay of ALV -2 (e.g. 70 hrs, vs 82 hours in Jul), etc. So, maybe they could give all that up and get their old rules back.

georgetg 05-14-2013 12:38 AM

new service:

LAX PDX 4x Daily
LAX SEA goes to 5x Daily

A few months away from memo detailing "Delta growing west coast operations" ...priceless!

Cheers
George

acl65pilot 05-14-2013 02:34 AM


Originally Posted by The Cavalier (Post 1408882)
This may have already been discussed but did anyone see the resolution passed by the ATL LEC where the reserve system would be moved to a straight seniority system? So basically what they are saying is that a junior pilot should now reach ALV+15 before a more senior pilot could be touched. Total BS. What's the motto? Schedule with safety?????


The resolution was substituted in drafting committee to have the MEC give direction on Bucket size. Everything else went away. The direction in the resolution was to seek maximum upward movement to the bucket thresholds. IE, raise from 80, etc.

The resolution was "postponed to a date certain" which will be the next MEC meeting this Aug in SEA. At that time there should be sufficient pilot input for a decision.

There will be opportunities to provide input going forward so the mec has recent data on the issue. Want it or don't want it. Happy, not happy, whatever it is, give your input when asked. If you are silent on the issue you may see results you do not like.

acl65pilot 05-14-2013 02:37 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1408455)
  • Non Member Admin have much more power than voting members.
  • Subversion of our Constitution, ByLaws and Admin Manual takes pilots' Reps out of the loop - my Reps were not involved in pilot labor negotiations with Delta management. Is it legitimate to recall a Rep for something they had nothing to do with and did not even know about? I think not.
  • Too difficult and too destructive to recall the President of the organization over line item issues when there is a failure of governance (even I don't advocate a recall, but as long as he remains in power everyone fears even sending a letter which might hurt politically - difficult to get Reps to put the health of the organization over the short term political gamesmanship) Should we recall Reps for that? I think not.
The "Executive Branch" of our union has to have a lot of power to hold the association together. That power has to be used wisely.

The membership need an enforcement mechanism (short of the Courts) to resolve governance issues. A recall is too severe and too disruptive to the association and it's members. The issue is ripe for a cure. Anyone have suggestions?


Yes, if you desire direct or more direct elections you know the process. It starts with a resolution at the LEC level. Bring one forward if you desire.

Carl Spackler 05-14-2013 03:51 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1408938)
Yes, if you desire direct or more direct elections you know the process. It starts with a resolution at the LEC level. Bring one forward if you desire.

And when that resolution passes, then gets killed by MEC inaction or outright ignoring of the policy, you'll say: "hey, the process worked. You tried, your idea didn't carry the day. Lets move on." I know because you said this exact thing when the flight pay loss resolutions were ignored. That's the problem acl.

Carl


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