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tsquare 05-16-2013 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1410653)
Oh Wait ... you are an ER Captain, aren't you?

I used to be.....

jabwmu 05-16-2013 12:02 PM

Reserve Green Slip Question.

I'm doing a one day green slip from DTW to DCA. It is blocked for 1.35 hrs with .25 hrs for DPM (Duty Period Minimum). My time card shows Greenslip pay of 2.0 hrs.

Does the 4:30 minimum apply to greenslips? Thanks.

GunshipGuy 05-16-2013 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Erdude32 (Post 1410290)
Heard this week "he was such a flamer I wanted to puke"

Heard last week "yeah we hired some cute young ones but about half are young Fags"

This is 2013 folks, get over it already. And at a little Airline with the initials DELTA AIR LINES. I'm not even going to bother saying, um that's slightly inappropriate anymore. I'm just going to turn your a$$ into HR. Amazing how many left seaters can be all nicey nice when the cockpit door is open and as soon as it closes feel free to go in a homophobic rant. Tired of the ignorance.

I'm offended you actually typed those demeaning words out so that I accidentally read them. You should have been considerate and conscientious enough to make your point without having to put those degrading words in black in white. Since this is an anonymous board I have no way of knowing who you are so I'm not able to turn you into HR, but I respectfully request you turn yourself in (or prostandards, your choice) and beg forgiveness. Please refrain from using such hurtful words in your vocabulary in the future, please.

newKnow 05-16-2013 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1410621)
Erdude,

Your own advice.

A lot of what's called homophobia isn't. Perhaps bigotry is a better way to describe some peoples' reactions to having a somewhat organized group aggressively force their sexual opinions on them. Venting is mostly a reaction to observations like the nude male bag tags I've seen on a NY Based A line's luggage and our corporation's own sponsorship of a program which sends adults to middle schools to talk to children about sexuality. Where I come from both are highly inappropriate, but are accepted.

Two wrongs don't make a right. In fact, two wrongs on the flight deck is likely a violation, or a safety event. I prefer the Braves to the Yankees and some years I am passionate about that distinction, but, I could care less as long as that other pilot speaks up at the right time to keep us both out of trouble.

IMHO, hypersensitivity to anything is an invitation to distraction. I keep my scope issues here on a web board. I invite you to do the same with whatever issues you might have a particular concern about. This is a better place to fix the World's problems than a flight deck, or heaven forbid with HR.

I strongly believe it is wrong to try to harm a fellow pilot because your opinions are different from theirs ... and at the end of the day, what you describe is a matter of opinion; two extreme views on what is unacceptable behavior.

Bar,

A lot can be taken from your post. I agree that if it were me, harming a fellow pilot would not be the road I would take.

But, ER's latest posts were about a guy using insulting slurs, which equates to more than an opinion, if the slurs are associated with a group he belongs to. Are you suggesting that he not address the issue when it happens? IMO, when the opportunity presents itself, the flight deck can be a great place to eradicate stereotypes.

LeineLodge 05-16-2013 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1410670)
Bar,

A lot can be taken from your post. But, ER's latest posts were about a guy using insulting slurs, which equates to more than an opinion, if the slurs are associated with a group he belongs to. Are you suggesting that he not address the issue when it happens? IMO, when the opportunity presents itself, the flight deck can be a great place to eradicate stereotypes.

I suggest there are several avenues to explore BEFORE going to HR. In a very rare instance that might be necessary, but we should all look out for each other (even those we disagree with) by first trying to solve our problems in house (pro Stan, etc).

Going straight to HR forces an issue to potentially a career-ending level when maybe just a minor behavior/attitude adjustment would have done the trick. Even if the guy is an a-hole I would give him the professional courtesy of allowing him the opportunity to clean up his act via a more constructive avenue than suspension/termination.

No excuse for hating on your coworkers, but its quite possible the guy was just venting/having a bad day. Should he endure a career altering event for that? Or can we put forth just a little effort to protect/educate our own (even if we don't agree with their worldview)?

Take care of each other. Next time it might be you or me that needs a little compassion - even if we don't necessarily deserve it.

FIIGMO 05-16-2013 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1410646)
My lawn mower has a vertical crank shaft which gets pumped by pistons very hard and regularly as a result of hot, expansive, gasses. If not properly lubricated, the thrust bearing could get really hot, as it grinds away against the shaft causing spalling. The first visible objective indication of impending failure would be smoke.

Therefore anyone who closely mows their wife's lawn without proper servicing of their tools before use might end up smoking a pole.

At least that's what I think he was talking about.

Home Depot, F150 ... make that a 350 Diesel with a tow package ... ahem.

That is funny right there! I just did not know people would admit it here! But what the hell! You cant make this s*it up!!

Going2Baja 05-16-2013 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1410646)
My lawn mower has a vertical crank shaft which gets pumped by pistons very hard and regularly as a result of hot, expansive, gasses. If not properly lubricated, the thrust bearing could get really hot, as it grinds away against the shaft causing spalling. The first visible objective indication of impending failure would be smoke.

Therefore anyone who closely mows their wife's lawn without proper servicing of their tools before use might end up smoking a pole.

POST OF THE DAY!!

Baja.

Speedbird2263 05-16-2013 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1410646)
My lawn mower has a vertical crank shaft which gets pumped by pistons very hard and regularly as a result of hot, expansive, gasses. If not properly lubricated, the thrust bearing could get really hot, as it grinds away against the shaft causing spalling. The first visible objective indication of impending failure would be smoke.

Therefore anyone who closely mows their wife's lawn without proper servicing of their tools before use might end up smoking a pole.

At least that's what I think he was talking about.

Home Depot, F150 ... make that a 350 Diesel with a tow package ... ahem.

Absolutely nominate for POST of the WEEK! That's some funny stuff right thurr... I concur

-2263

Check Essential 05-16-2013 01:47 PM

Lots of good exchanges over the gay issue. Thanks for raising it erdude.
Education and enlightenment are always a good thing.
Let's keep it amongst ourselves though. Or Pro Standards is also cool in those rare cases where simple inter-personal communications fail.
I was very glad to hear erdude say that pro-stan would be the better option if he couldn't or just didn't want to handle it himself.

The Delta pilots have a long established cultural tradition that I value very highly. We have each other's backs. We take care of our own.
If a guy needs some help or guidance we provide it in the most low-key way possible.
Going to management with a complaint that could jeopardize someone's job is only a last resort, extreme "red emergency" move. Flight safety would have to be in danger of being compromised before you do that. Simple use of some language you find offensive definitely does not qualify.

Flight attendants write each other up all the time. Pilots, never.
Its always been that way. Let's not ever change it.

NERD 05-16-2013 01:50 PM

Can the swap board be used for next months trips now? Or does it not become active until 0700/20th like pcs?


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