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I'm very curious about an out of the blue AE 2-3 months earlier than advertised and dropped with no notice.

If its another staffing neutral "funding" then where exactly are the "excess" pilots coming from? After this last AE we're just not fat enough for another self funding AE anywhere unless its coming from accelerated parking or under-utilization somewhere else.

The 717 from the last bid still has unfilled positions because they couldn't draw down from other fleets. If this one is self funding it would have to be an extremely myopic targeted "one from here, two from there" and even then what's the reasoning behind the sudden accelerated no notice AE dropped on us 2-3 months before the one they were going to do anyway?

The timing of this one really makes it look like we're either going to hire soon or keep shrinking to profitability.

It's because they are hiring all 2300 pinnacle pilots at the end of the year to staff the 717s and 737s (I'm kidding, I'm Kidding)

forgot to bid

05-31-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1419114)

Where exactly do they think they can displace 100 more pilots off of?

ATL 88B!

23 GS today as of 3pm. now just imagine how bad it would have been if the contract had made us less productive not more?

ShyGuy

05-31-2013 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by PinnacleFO (Post 1419175)

It's because they are hiring all 2300 pinnacle pilots at the end of the year to staff the 717s and 737s (I'm kidding, I'm Kidding)

I hear certain senior 9E pilots are finally working on getting their degree.

Imagine that awkward interview....

"So you want to work at Delta?"

Yes!

"I see you were hired at 9E in 2000."

Yes.

"Did you apply to Delta in the 2007 hiring cycle?"

No.

"Did you apply to Delta in the 2010 hiring cycle?"

No.

So why are you here today?"

I was told this was just a formality and the job is mine.

"Thank you for coming!". (points towards the exit door)

Oh. I'll see you in 6 months then. And as a reminder, you are contractually obligated to hire 12 of us per month no matter how good or bad the applicant may be. Bye and see you in 6 months for my contractually obligated 2nd-chance interview.

(I'm kidding, I'm kidding)

forgot to bid

05-31-2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1419153)

WARNING!!! WARNING!!!
[Pilot trying to figure out what management is going to do.] :D

But, here's a thought...

If you just made a decision to keep 320's and/or buy 321's, and 330's to arrive in short order, and you just had an AE where you displaced a lot of 320 and 330 pilots, why not put out a new AE with the quickness so those guy's & gal's can use their reinstatement rights don't have to go to training?

Disclaimer:

That thought only makes sense if a lot of the displaced pilots, from the last AE, haven't started training yet. :rolleyes:

I'd say most haven't started training so I think you're assumption is possible.

However, would these 321s be new? Because it'd take a while to get here. We still don't have the 739s yet.

DeltaA320

05-31-2013 11:35 AM

I parked at A74 in dtw today and there is a 321 parking line....why would they paint that at our terminal?

A6danimal

05-31-2013 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1419179)

ATL 88B!

23 GS today as of 3pm. now just imagine how bad it would have been if the contract had made us less productive not more?

And 4 in MSP, 2 in CVG and 2 in NYC. Of all of those (including FTB's above), 17 are 2nd GS of bid period and 2 are 3rd GS. Captains have 4 out of base/instructor GS's (CVG/MSP) and 2 IA's (those in MSP). This while we are still staffed at or close to what we had before the last AE chopped MSP88B by 30 and -A by 20. Maybe someone realized they were wrong and that explains the new AE?
Prediction: MD's out of 717 categories BACK into 88's!!:eek:
You THOUGHT you'd get the summer off ...

Hero68

05-31-2013 11:39 AM

Thanks for the heads up..I will bookmark that gouge section.

ShyGuy

05-31-2013 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltaA320 (Post 1419187)

I parked at A74 in dtw today and there is a 321 parking line....why would they paint that at our terminal?

Because when Branson and Anderson met, there was a secret deal to acquire VX and get new A321s. :p

iceman49

05-31-2013 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1419094)

FWIW. Overheard conversation in Atl crew lounge between 2 fo's so it must be true:) "Per 320 fleet capt. The first batch of 320s got life extension and are staying, greater than 50% chance of 321s, and 10 330s coming all growth, and hiring starting no later than late 2013". And the pool of pilots (due to the new 1500 hr rule) only enough for about 5 years of hiring at all the majors. Don't shoot the messenger.

Don't believe the decision to do the extension has been decided yet.

Scoop

05-31-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaA320 (Post 1419187)

I parked at A74 in dtw today and there is a 321 parking line....why would they paint that at our terminal?

Because pretty soon 321's may be parking there. 321's flying DAL passengers who bought tickets on delta.com. The question is....... who will be flying those 321's, Delta pilots or the new code share/JV partner of the week? :eek:

Scoop

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