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TANSTAAFL 05-31-2013 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1419339)

The company has decided it makes economic sense to carry all the extra pilots as opposed to furloughing. That's their economic decision. Once again, we have a very large surplus of pilots at ma Delta.

Carl

What I think is nonsense is the ever changing goal line of "we are studying, wating for network, etc. and will know in a few months" that shifts to the next crew staffing memo or AE. The company and ALPA sure seemed to have all sorts of specifics when they were co-selling the TA based on 717 and growth.

What has happened though is we have almost completely vertically re-integrated seniority to aircraft junior to senior. Normally the SD memo's ref AE's are pretty cheery, school sprit day - this was notably subdued in comparison. Look out below......:eek:

TANSTAAFL 05-31-2013 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1419430)
I'm not the expert on the new FTDT stuff, but it seems like the Company might be able to avoid "dinner and a movie" rotations in the not too distant future and use those pilots as MD88A's.

It is not the kind of widebody flying movement we would like to see, but not disastrous either. End of the day, Delta makes some tweaks to increase efficiency.

What's a dinner and a movie rotation - where we try and get a few inadequate hours nap in a substandard rest facility while flying on the back side of the clock?

If we lose that to a FTDT PWA concession to un-augmented Atlantic operations it will be a major step backwards for all of our careers. Don't forget that would also likely require a duty rig modification to make a 48hr international layover resets cost effective.

You may however have hit on the key to why we are not hiring and the cannibalizing to staff what should be new hire aircraft.

gloopy 05-31-2013 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1419257)
Some of the goals you mentioned above are very legitimate, and can mean a lot more money for Delta. Showing a profit for (I think) 4 consecutive quarters... could be more) leads to getting an investment grade. Being investment grade is HUGE, and if that could happen before we open the contract again, there should be a lot more $ available to us...

Depends on how much furniture they burn to get the house warm for the showing.

Bucking Bar 05-31-2013 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL (Post 1419481)
What's a dinner and a movie rotation -

AKA "Caribbean Club"... an 8+ day line consisting of a Caribbean or Western Atlantic turn from NYC or ATL. They go uber senior. Work one leg, sit in FC the other, go home.

Even seen one in the MD88; LGA>SJU>LGA. Took dial a flap 19 or some similar nonsense to avoid skipping across the bay on rotation.

TANSTAAFL 05-31-2013 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1419499)
AKA "Caribbean Club"... an 8+ day line consisting of a Caribbean or Western Atlantic turn from NYC or ATL. They go uber senior.

I bet they have a lot more in mind than that :eek:

Bucking Bar 05-31-2013 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare
Some of the goals you mentioned above are very legitimate, and can mean a lot more money for Delta. Showing a profit for (I think) 4 consecutive quarters... could be more) leads to getting an investment grade. Being investment grade is HUGE, and if that could happen before we open the contract again, there should be a lot more $ available to us...
Technically, DAL has enjoyed an "investment grade" Bond rating since at least JUN 2012. It is a good thing, but, I don't think enjoying that status has meant a whole lot to us as we take the Mad Dogs from the pound just prior to euthanasia.

Sorry ... sometimes the metaphors just take over.

forgot to bid 05-31-2013 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by fishguy79 (Post 1419300)
I hope the rumors of displacements are not true. If it is true then it is complete BS. I am getting sick and tired of being LIED to by the fourth floor... After the last massive displacement bid, they came out and said this should be the last. We will be posting AE's for the new A/C. It is bad enough they were able to staff almost a quarter of our "growth aircraft" thru a displacement bid, now it appears to be continuing. I do not get paid to make these decisions and I really do not concern my self with how they decide to do it. But I do take offense to being misled by almost every leader in the flight ops dept. I do not believe for one second, that they do not have a plan on where we are headed. It must not be pleasant because they are certainly going out of the way to be deceptive. vent over.

I agree.


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1419430)
I'm not the expert on the new FTDT stuff, but it seems like the Company might be able to avoid "dinner and a movie" rotations in the not too distant future and use those pilots as MD88A's.

It is not the kind of widebody flying movement we would like to see, but not disastrous either. End of the day, Delta makes some tweaks to increase efficiency.

Push more people to the MD88s? Ah poor people. Let's review.

The MD-88 is a delinquent airplane made by delinquents to be piloted by delinquents flying to places only delinquents go.

"MD" Many Delinquents

/channeling inner Bar

iaflyer 05-31-2013 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1419506)
Technically, DAL has enjoyed an "investment grade" Bond rating since at least JUN 2012. It is a good thing, but, I don't think enjoying that status has meant a whole lot to us as we take the Mad Dogs from the pound just prior to euthanasia.

Sorry ... sometimes the metaphors just take over.

http://www.sonicsolution.it/public/copt/trax0050.jpg

Little hardcore about the Maddog? :eek:

Traxtorm Records - Dj Mad Dog - I Love Hardcore (TRAX 0050)

forgot to bid 05-31-2013 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1419513)

Oh great find.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...BUO-YvV1tT8JZW

Awesome. It's like a pirate flag they should put up on a summer IROPS night.

forgot to bid 05-31-2013 06:19 PM

Remember that video I posted from inside a tornado with that semi-tank like tornado chasing thingy.

Well, they should've stuck to the semi-tank like tornado chasing thingy...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLok1GACQAE-KaE.jpg

One thing we learned from the movie Twister is a tornado will not pick up a red Dodge Ram. Trains? Yes. Dodge Ram? No. So if you're not in a red Dodge Ram, then at least fly this flag as a warning to mother nature...

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...BUO-YvV1tT8JZW


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