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That's exactly what you are calling me. Regardless that is straight from people involved in the process. The offered more pay to run more seats at DCI.

scambo1

06-05-2013 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1422603)

Cloud's a good word for it. The economy is cleared for takeoff except it's fogged in and it's ORD and the 10-9s were ripped out.

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Yeah the housing market where I am is going gangbusters. I'd make money on my house and if I sold it for the comps in the neighborhood I'd make more than paid plus everything we've put into it. And there is pent up demand supposedly throughout the economy from years of not spending money. All good signs but there are plenty of canaries in the coal mine that look really sick.

Sub-prime lending is becoming the law again. After that bubble, there's no bailout left. My personal target for re-shorting is late 2015.

80ktsClamp

06-05-2013 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1422605)

That's exactly what you are calling me. Regardless that is straight from people involved in the process. The offered more pay to run more seats at DCI.

The fact is that what you are stating completely goes against what many of us have seen RA (and others in senior mgmt) state about the E190 on a number of occasions.

forgot to bid

06-05-2013 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 1422600)

Just misinformed.

What did Mark Twain say about newspapers? If you don't read them you're uninformed. If you read them, you're misinformed.

I think that's our motto around here. :D

scambo1

06-05-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1422605)

That's exactly what you are calling me. Regardless that is straight from people involved in the process. The offered more pay to run more seats at DCI.

No, I believe you are telling the truth. I also believe you were misled.

ExAF	06-05-2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1421986)

You nailed it.

It was actually a SPOT scenario that had an MEL before we went flying into the W/S, to be fair...Still far too many "right" places to find stuff. I didn't even mention the Airway Manual :cool:

Wait until you get the V1 cut and fly into the windshear the instructor forgot to take out from the previous event! :eek:

Mesabah

06-05-2013 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1422584)

RA is very up to speed on the economy.

Is it possible his reticence to hire is fueled by a belief that another economic meltdown is imminent?

Or is does his new position in charge of the IATA indicate that top-end outsourcing is about to kick into overdrive?

There have been numerous studies done that show the next generation coming up is much more likely to spend whatever little money they have with Delta, rather than buy a car or a house. Another positive of a downturn is that fuel prices collapse and more than offset the loss of revenue due to decreasing load factor. Stagflation is what kills the airlines, and if Delta is being cautious, it is more likely they are expecting a repeat of the economic conditions of 2002-2007.

However, I think Delta is not hiring because the last contract has made them slightly overstaffed.

Mesabah

06-05-2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1422611)

The fact is that what you are stating completely goes against what many of us have seen RA (and others in senior mgmt) state about the E190 on a number of occasions.

Management floated the E190 rumor because they wanted a compromise on more 76 seat jets. However, they got the scope exchange instead. You always ask for double what you want; management negotiation 101.

80ktsClamp

06-05-2013 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1422642)

There was no E190 rumor floated... that's just sailing being sailing.

Conflicting reports of mgmt asking for more seats allowed on the 76 seaters (up to 82) were floated, but that was after the contract was out for a vote.

When I spoke with those involved in the process before it came to a vote, they adamantly stated that mgmt had NOT come to them for any seat relief.

forgot to bid

06-05-2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1422642)

Ah but if we ask for double then we are deemed to be operating in bad faith and thats taken to a judge and we are given pay cuts. So we have to temper what we ask for to just barely above our.minimums and management will do the same.

I can hear you laughing. :D

Just give me a few minutes to look back through the threads from this time last year and I'll find just that.

Then I'll hear your face palming.

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