Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1429197)

Someone mentioned that it could be as few as 30 new hires per month. What would that breakout be?

Originally Posted by MrMustache (Post 1429219)

All flow throughs and no SSP, could be wrong...

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1429253)

Shiz was explaining how classes would be staffed. For those of us who hadn't looked at it, it kind of helps to understand it. Especially for the off the street hopefully all hired at Delta guys who frequent this cesspool of knowledge. :D

One thing that would be interesting to look at is expected retirements. We have 857 between now and the end of 2017, or really a net of 758 considering 99 are out on NBC. And unlike baseball, most people don't get bigger, stronger and healthier with age... Cubs and Cardinals fans cough cough.

Anyways, we need to hire 17.9 or 15.8 pilots per month from 2014-2017 to keep up with retirements. Now we know guys leave prior to that and it's unpredictable but it's just a ballpark gauge. The real gauge is how many pilots fly the line every month, right now is around the 10,500 range and has been for a while. If nobody was unable to bid for FUR, MIL, SICK, etc we'd have 10,500 pilots. If that makes a move towards 9,000 more than a move towards 11,000 and there's no external reason for that then we need to have a conversation.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1429293)

Shiz if I quote you I'll spend forever scrolling on this phone. Id love to get 11500 but we are sending nearly 300 guys to the 717 internally without hiring and claiming its because of overstaffing. So at best the 88 717s aren't going to achieve 100% growth for pilots. But I hope we bow up on the west coast and all of those rumors cone true and there are a lot less replacement and more growth.

If we push out the Alaska deal I guess its better late than never. But there's no denying thats some growth.

Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1429297)

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1429293)

Shiz if I quote you I'll spend forever scrolling on this phone. Id love to get 11500 but we are sending nearly 300 guys to the 717 internally without hiring and claiming its because of overstaffing. So at best the 88 717s aren't going to achieve 100% growth for pilots. But I hope we bow up on the west coast and all of those rumors cone true and there are a lot less replacement and more growth.

If we push out the Alaska deal I guess its better late than never. But there's no denying thats some growth.

Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1429272)

20 CPZ
9. MSA
1. Off the street. (1/3 of 1 position would round down to 0 right? I'm guessing here.... That whole "rounded to the nearest integer" thing.)

The fun part is if there are only 24 seats available in one of the early "post bypass" months...
20 CPZ
9 MSA

-5 from someone!!!! Is it ratioed below that or does one group have piority? Anyone, Bueller?

Originally Posted by Jonny Drama (Post 1429308)

Shiz, I am pretty sure that the CP flows come in front of the XJ flows. Our agreement was created before theXJ agreement and that was how it was determined by NWA. As mentioned before, CP's tops out at 25% of 450 ish in a rolling 12 mos. (Approx 110-115) About 310 pilots still eligible.