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Denny Crane 07-30-2013 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1454568)
They don't consider the drop for the recalled pilots as an AE do they?


No, I don't think they do. What is interesting is the contract says furlough recalls can bid an AE in training well.........what about and AE that comes out after training?

Denny

shiznit 07-30-2013 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by The Cavalier (Post 1454383)
What if the guy swapping into said base is jr to a guy who has been trying to bid into that base for a while? I think it sounds like a way to circumvent seniority. We had this at my last airline only there was a period where a sr pilot who saw that a pilot jr to him swapped into a base was allowed to "steal" it. The whole thing was a mess and led to many heated crew room discussions. Straight seniority category bids are if nothing else transparent.

I agree completely. Having been there, Cav and I lived with that set of rules and recognized the fairness of it. Seniority needs to be honored, just like in other parts of our business.

Jack Bauer 07-30-2013 11:57 PM

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Check Essential 07-31-2013 04:49 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1454574)
So, I get they can give out a projected conversion date and then send you to training earlier and convert your earlier, but can they move your conversion back and if so, how far back can they make it go from the original projected? I don't see a limit other than the end of the posted date on the AE when all awards have to be converted.

There's nothing binding about those "projections".

You are correct that they have to convert you before the end of the conversion window and they also have to convert you in the proper seniority order or else pay protect you. (22.E.9)

There's one exception we haven't seen used in a long time but might happen this time around if they start to get really short: Section 22.D.6 allows you to make a deal with the company to stay in your current category beyond the conversion window.

The Cavalier 07-31-2013 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by Jack Bauer (Post 1454679)

Oh goodie, an alliance with a Japanese carrier! I can see it now, dump our NRT operation in favor of HND slots via codeshare!!

Check Essential 07-31-2013 06:22 AM


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Purple Drank 07-31-2013 06:32 AM

I've got a payback day from a few months back, couple of questions--

  • can one be used in the middle of 5 on-call reserve days to create two 2 day blocks?
  • can one be used to drop a trip longer than one day?
I'll check the contract now--just wondering if anyone had any input in the meantime.
Thanks!

LeineLodge 07-31-2013 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1454796)
I've got a payback day from a few months back, couple of questions--

  • can one be used in the middle of 5 on-call reserve days to create two 2 day blocks?
  • can one be used to drop a trip longer than one day?
I'll check the contract now--just wondering if anyone had any input in the meantime.
Thanks!

Yes, absolutely to #1. I've done it several times. You just have to have adequate coverage on the day that you want to drop.

For #2, I think you can, but I've never tried it. My understanding is it works like a PD or APD. I think you only get paid for the day you drop though, and no soft credit, so the obvious thought would be to drop the highest hard-time day.

georgetg 07-31-2013 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by The Cavalier (Post 1454748)
Oh goodie, an alliance with a Japanese carrier! I can see it now, dump our NRT operation in favor of HND slots via codeshare!!

Keep your eye on Skymark...

http://www.bloomberg.com/image/i7Tj51yMAJQs.jpg

http://www.anna.aero/wp-content/uplo...0-598x3001.jpg

They currently serve the domestic Japanes market using 31 737s.
Early 2014 they get their first of seven A330 for international operations.
They also have six A380s on order and earlier this year (2013) filed for DOT approval of their first A380 route NRT-JFK.

Oh and they aren't in any alliance, nor do they have a frequent flier program, but they let Japanese Delta customers redeem Skymiles for flights on Skymark...

If we peek over the fence, UAL is poised to grow UA ticked passengers placed on ANA by 300%, while ANA is planning on placing 200% more NH ticketed passengers on United operated flights. So the StarAlliance codeshare growth will be asymmetric in favor of United's Japanese partner ANA...

Cheers
George

The Cavalier 07-31-2013 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1454842)
Keep your eye on Skymark...

http://www.bloomberg.com/image/i7Tj51yMAJQs.jpg

http://www.anna.aero/wp-content/uplo...0-598x3001.jpg

They currently serve the domestic Japanes market using 31 737s.
Early 2014 they get their first of seven A330 for international operations.
They also have six A380s on order and earlier this year (2013) filed for DOT approval of their first A380 route NRT-JFK.

Oh and they aren't in any alliance, nor do they have a frequent flier program, but they let Japanese Delta customers redeem Skymiles for flights on Skymark...

If we peek over the fence, UAL is poised to grow UA ticked passengers placed on ANA by 300%, while ANA is planning on placing 200% more NH ticketed passengers on United operated flights. So the StarAlliance codeshare growth will be asymmetric in favor of United's Japanese partner ANA...

Cheers
George

Sounds like plan B if we don't get more HND slots and get squeezed out of NRT.


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