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Old 06-19-2013 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by maddogmax
Having been both enlisted and an officer in the Navy, I can assure you there is no way you could keep 250 sailors quiet about shooting down an airliner!
I completely agree. I was just adding info about missiles, didn't mean to sound like I believe the conspiracy bs.
Old 06-19-2013 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
This.... Now if there had been a unexplained ship sinking soon afterward....
Wonder if ALPA will release a statement on this after the show airs. Getting some back channel pings from retired ALPA safety hierarchy who are e-mailing buddies and saying "what? that never happened..."

Recall the FBI was involved. This was being dealt with as a criminal investigation which would have skewed the investigation towards the search for an IED, or similar source.

Notwithstanding Buzz's first person accounts ... the actual investigators and admin for those parties think the NTSB got it right.
Old 06-19-2013 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by badflaps
Wasn't there a P-3 in the area with racked Harpoons?
Harpoon is an anti-shipping missile. Pretty sure it can't hit an airplane.
Old 06-19-2013 | 07:04 AM
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Airbus wins A350 order from Air France-KLM

| Reuters – 5 hrs ago
  • PARIS (Reuters) - Airbus (Paris: NL0000235190 - news) sealed a long-awaited order for 25 A350-900 aircraft from Air France-KLM (Other OTC: AFLYY - news) worth $7.2 billion (4.6 billion pounds) at list prices after Rolls-Royce and the airline reached a deal over engine maintenance.



The airline also took a further 25 options on the planes, the companies said at the Paris Airshow on Wednesday.
Industry sources had told Reuters on Tuesday the carrier was about to announce the deal after talks narrowly avoided collapse.
Air France-KLM has been at loggerheads with suppliers over issues mainly including maintenance of the plane's Rolls-Royce engines ever since the deal was first mooted in 2011. Air France (Paris: FR0000031122 - news) and Rolls had clashed over conflicting ideas for engine supply deals.
The airline said on Wednesday, however, that it had signed a memorandum of understanding with Rolls-Royce to equip the A350s with Trent XWB engines, including their maintenance by Air France Industries KLM Engineering & Maintenance.
Rolls said the deal to power the 25 A350s was worth $1.1 billion at list prices.
Air France traditionally orders engines from Rolls' U.S. rival General Electric (Other OTC: GEAPP - news) , but the A350 is powered exclusively by Rolls-Royce Trent XWB engines.
Air France-KLM is seeking to lower costs by cutting jobs and restructuring its network as it aims to return to profit and cut debt by 2 billion euros by the end of next year. It faces soaring fuel costs, a worsening cargo business and tough competition from Gulf and low-cost carriers.
"This shows that despite some difficulties Air France-KLM is facing, we are in sufficiently good shape to be able to plan the renewal of our long-haul fleet," said Alexandre de Juniac, who is due to become Air France-KLM chief executive from July 1.
Air France-KLM currently operates a fleet of just over 190 Airbus aircraft.
Old 06-19-2013 | 07:08 AM
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Country singer Slim Whitman dies at age 90



    Old 06-19-2013 | 07:27 AM
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    Originally Posted by orvil
    Country singer Slim Whitman dies at age 90




    • MIAMI (AP) — Country singer Slim Whitman, the high-pitched yodeler who sold millions of records through ever-present TV ads in the 1980s and 1990s and whose song saved the world in the film comedy "Mars Attacks!," died Wednesday at a Florida hospital. He was 90.
    RIP Slim...
    Old 06-19-2013 | 07:40 AM
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    Originally Posted by maddogmax
    Having been both enlisted and an officer in the Navy, I can assure you there is no way you could keep 250 sailors quiet about shooting down an airliner!
    Originally Posted by tsquare
    This.... Now if there had been a unexplained ship sinking soon afterward....
    Ha. That's funny.
    Old 06-19-2013 | 07:42 AM
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    Originally Posted by buzzpat
    They definitely seek heat but, depending on how advanced they are, it's not inconceivable that one would hit the wing near or between the engines on a 74.

    Post script: I was at the White House the night this incident occurred and there were A LOT of discussions about the possibility of a missile strike. It was deemed not politically prudent to open that can if worms during a reelection campaign. I, for one, never bought the NTSB results because I heard and saw a lot of the back and forth with Clinton.

    There's a great book written by Jack Cashill that documents all of the behind the scenes stuff.
    Buzz, the IRS audit team must have you on speed dial.
    Old 06-19-2013 | 08:13 AM
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    Best-selling Twin Cities author Vince Flynn dies of cancer at 47

    For those of you who have enjoyed his books while on the road. Too sad, he was pretty young.
    Old 06-19-2013 | 08:32 AM
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    Damn! Thought he had beaten it. My favorite author. Flew with a 320 fo in msp that I believe went to high school, college or both with him. Sounded like a great guy. RIP Mr Flynn.

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    Best-selling Twin Cities author Vince dies of cancer at 47

    For those of you who have enjoyed his books while on the road. Too sad, he was pretty young.
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