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06-20-2013 | 12:14 AM
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They were really light.... Under 600,000 lb's! Since the only pump to not have been recovered was a center scavenge pump:
Most aircraft I have flown have scavenge pumps, but they are venturi effect (i.e. motive flow) only. I'm sure there are a few classic whale guys on here who can speak to what sort of functionality they have... anyone?
Most aircraft I have flown have scavenge pumps, but they are venturi effect (i.e. motive flow) only. I'm sure there are a few classic whale guys on here who can speak to what sort of functionality they have... anyone?
Carl
06-20-2013 | 12:25 AM
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06-20-2013 | 01:04 AM
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buzzpat,
We had 12 tanks in the C-5 and after TW 800, we were carting around stored fuel to keep the pumps submerged. Lockheed looked at the wiring and, even with fuel tank inserting, told the AF the wiring needed fixing due to age.
GF
We had 12 tanks in the C-5 and after TW 800, we were carting around stored fuel to keep the pumps submerged. Lockheed looked at the wiring and, even with fuel tank inserting, told the AF the wiring needed fixing due to age.
GF
06-20-2013 | 03:43 AM
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From: A330 First Officer
I just finished my ASAP report for a full on windshear warning the other evening.
Yes, folks.... it can be just like the simulator.
That being said, the prior DL flight kind of hung us out to dry. They went from very specific reports of light turbulence and heavy rain to "eh... it was ok... we got in" by the time they landed. That could have turned out much worse than it did.
There is no loss of pride in being the first one to call uncle! I am not that thrilled about being one of the few people to have experienced and recovered from a full windshear warning and perform the recovery just like in the sim in real life.
The most amazing thing was the ASA flight behind us saying "we'll take a look."
They also got to experience it... but why??
Yes, folks.... it can be just like the simulator.
That being said, the prior DL flight kind of hung us out to dry. They went from very specific reports of light turbulence and heavy rain to "eh... it was ok... we got in" by the time they landed. That could have turned out much worse than it did.
There is no loss of pride in being the first one to call uncle! I am not that thrilled about being one of the few people to have experienced and recovered from a full windshear warning and perform the recovery just like in the sim in real life.
The most amazing thing was the ASA flight behind us saying "we'll take a look."
They also got to experience it... but why??
06-20-2013 | 03:46 AM
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As I've gotten older, I've gotten less and less upset about the weather... for one single reason: I've learned how to avoid it.
That flight was probably both the most proud I've ever been with my airmanship as well as the most upset that I've been with my airmanship.
A lack of assertiveness due to prior traffic reports helped me get the plane in that position in the first place. I could see the weather was getting worse... The one thing I will never forgive myself for is not calling uncle earlier. Even more amazing was hearing other airlines continue to want to go take a look after us!
That flight was probably both the most proud I've ever been with my airmanship as well as the most upset that I've been with my airmanship.
A lack of assertiveness due to prior traffic reports helped me get the plane in that position in the first place. I could see the weather was getting worse... The one thing I will never forgive myself for is not calling uncle earlier. Even more amazing was hearing other airlines continue to want to go take a look after us!
06-20-2013 | 04:07 AM
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06-20-2013 | 04:50 AM
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I start training in July. The two days before I go are marked PTP on my schedule, which I assume some how means 48 hours off before training. The four days prior to that are marked NQAT. Does anyone know what this means?
06-20-2013 | 05:28 AM
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06-20-2013 | 05:51 AM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
The one time I've seen real, no kidding, windshear, as a line of garbage and dust swept across the airport, a MD88 crew reported an X0 knot gain on landing roll out. I sure remember they said "eighty" but I wouldn't swear to it.
My first officer and I had already been preparing for the go around. The report from the Delta pilot ahead was good information ... we asked for a non standard missed to remain as clear as we could. He was off to ground before we could say thanks for the PIREP. It is good that PIREPS are a part of Delta's windshear training.
My first officer and I had already been preparing for the go around. The report from the Delta pilot ahead was good information ... we asked for a non standard missed to remain as clear as we could. He was off to ground before we could say thanks for the PIREP. It is good that PIREPS are a part of Delta's windshear training.
06-20-2013 | 06:13 AM
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From: 73N A
The classic whale had an AD that came after the accident to use the center tank fuel in various ways to avoid creating what the FAA thought was an explosive mixture. Once you reached 1000 pounds in the center, you used the scavenge pump to pump it to one of the main tanks.
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