Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1436685)

Not at all. We are almost in a constant state of scope negotiations (or we think we are). However management has not engaged ALPA on the AF JV or VA JV. Our NRT codeshare will probably be renegotiated.

Management is constantly running proposals to DCI. Labor is a component of those proposals. Using the progress of agreements as a litmus, the Pinnacle MEC is more engaged and has had better success than the Delta MEC in the last year.

Moak gave them a seat at the table. They will participate. This happened under T O'M's watch, not our current administration. Still, it is my opinion our current Administration failed by not making a formal objection to an Executive Board, or even firing a warning shot across National's bow to warn them that we will not tolerate undermining of the Delta MEC on issues that are the direct concern of Delta pilots.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1436713)

Vikz09,

How many pilots have come back from leave and furlough? That's probably your answer right there.

Problem is, most of them are coming back now that they can enjoy the seats and bases we've been displaced from.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1436685)

Using the progress of agreements as a litmus, the Pinnacle MEC is more engaged and has had better success than the Delta MEC in the last year.

Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1436731)

Add in that FA's are staffed at a rate of at least 3 to 1 greater than pilots(probaby more) which really shrinks your 625 WAG. Add in the return of over 200 Military leave pilots and you're pretty much a wash.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1436738)

Or maybe you're defining success the old way and not the new way.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1436744)

There is no "new" way to measure success.

It boils down to how many Delta pilots have jobs and how much to they earn. Success is very objective.

Justifications for failure tend to be subjective. Adding low cost bidders for management to choose from, instead of our MEC is a strategic blunder which will cost Delta pilot jobs and pay.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1436125)

What are you going to give up to take that from your employers bottom line? Hmm? You know how many 76 seaters we could buy if we added up all the stolen water, cokes, twix, twix, twix, snickers and my favorite- shortbread cookies!

Think twice before you steal from the company unless you want to be lumped in with commuting commuters.

RJ punks.

Originally Posted by nerd2009 (Post 1436781)

Think of all the money you can save by not washing your hands and drying them after you use the potty! Our passengers even try to save us money by doing exactly this!