Not exactly your typical July 4th in HOT-lanta:

KATL 041731Z 18009KT 7SM TS FEW015CB BKN075 OVC110 23/21 A3015 RMK AO2 TSB31RAB02E31 VIS LWR SW SHRA FRQ LTGICCG SW TS SW MOV N CB DSNT NE SHRA DSNT NE P0016

I went to the Cumming GA july 4th parade. A bunch of steam engines. It was misty, low overcast, cool. People were wearing jackets.

I think last year it was a drought and the fireworks caused a fire. Now, all the mosquitoes drowned.

 

This is not positive at all. I will keep my feelings about the merger and who is better off in the long run, pay raise, no commute, better management, prosperity etc etc.....

I was hoping that we were all above this level of distrust. I respect the POV's but not the attempts at and labeling of people for their observations and view of the facts.

Hoping for a happy fourth for all of my DAL brothers! Now I have to commute for work!

 

Thanks for the info. Can you buy the Zeds on the spot? Travel net says there is a 2-3 day wait...

Any good way to check loads on AK?

 

exactly.

not only that, but it might not stop with simply losing pay.

The company can also dig into your medical records from your personal physician. Is this even legal??

From ALPA's contract awareness product:

In appropriate cases ... only (“good faith basis”), a Chief Pilot can ask you to sign a medical release with the medical information being limited to review by a Company designated doctor, other health care professionals, the Director-Health Services and the Senior Vice-President of Flight Operations

The actual contract (14.G), however, doesn't use the term "ask:"

So ALPA is still spinning the contract.

 

The winner in any contract is NYC. The key is to have a rich grandmother leave you a rent controlled apartment in the city. And then have friends. And your seniority will take you places that ATL could never dream of.

 

Two comments:

If you're sick, you're sick. Don't fly. A) you're not doing yourself any good, and B) you're flying buddy doesn't want you there either. The company sure as hell doesn't want you bending metal and would be extremely hard pressed if they chose not to pay you for your rightful sick leave.

Secondly, as to our merger, I feel like I just stumbled into a 2008 version of an APC thread, or a UAL/Continental thread, or a US Air/AA thread, or SWA/AT.....move on guys. We're kicking ass and taking names while these other companies thrash about. It's over....and it's working.

Happy 4th brothers!

 

Ax yourself. Why is it crushing them?

 

Pay raise? Was reserve on the baby bus. 6% hourly raise on day one, with a reduction in guarantee by 5 hrs. $100 less per month. Commuted before and still do. No better, no worse in that area. Better management? That is up for debate. While Delta puts on a show about a better environment, my observation is they stretch the truth to put it mildly. They tell the pilot group(all employees for that matter) what they want to hear and do something else. Delta employees buy into it (it being the Delta of old which no longer exists). At NWA, imho you always new where you stood with mgmt. Which was that you are a cost to be managed, nothing personal. Prosperity? Again my opinion is without the merger both would have been back in ch11 by late 2009. The combined airline is what kept us out and now is profitable and is better than the two were alone. Happy 4th to all.

 

So wouldn't that tell you that there is a lot more to this negotiation thingy than just demanding stuff and folding our arms? Just asking, because if that is all there is to it, then the doughnut holes are right. Let's fire ALPA, demand what we "deserve" and wait a couple of weeks to sign the first big check. It all must be so simple... I wonder why ALPA can't deliver on everybody's nirvana.

 

regarding the "good faith" basis--

"Note: Such individual circumstances may not be derived solely from the amount of sick leave used by the pilot or the frequency of his sick occurrences."

Translation: the amount and frequency of sick leave use is ALWAYS one of the reasons, it just can't be the ONLY reason.

But theres more. They recently stated that the purpose of a CPO call requiring verification is to "ensure the sick leave benefit is administered consistently, equitably, and in compliance with the PWA." Ughhhh huh.

Right out of the chute they have 4 per-packaged "circumstances" for every pilot on the list: amount and use, and to make sure the benefit is administered consistently (everyone is subject to harassment), equitably, and in compliance with the PWA. Throw in another "circumstance" for good measure and it would nearly impossible to show lack of good faith.

Funny how the company wants to make sure the PWA is being followed in THIS situation. Thanks ALPA! Another win-lose!