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galaxy flyer 07-15-2013 06:43 PM

Doing so would, no doubt, put you on a rubber room. Not a good career move.

GF

Columbia 07-15-2013 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 1445653)
Doing so would, no doubt, put you on a rubber room. Not a good career move.

GF

Eggggzachry. Welcome to the L&G rubber room. :eek:

Wait, did you say put you on a rubber room? :cool:

Jack Bauer 07-15-2013 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by Martin404 (Post 1445534)
I Posted this on another forum but hope to gain some good insight from this thread!



It appears that DAL will begin to interview in Q4 2013 or Q1 2014 I’m looking for NEW information about the hiring process. I’ve reviewed the old “Will Fly for Food” (WFFF) and APC info but does anyone have insight into what the new process may be?

Specifically:

Cognitive Test:

Will the cognitive tests be the same and is Luminosity.com the still a good way to prepare? Are there other web sites or even smart phone applications that are good?

Technical Test:

For the Technical Review Exam is the ATP test prep still a good way to study? The previous Pilot Job Knowledge Test Outline centers on four areas: Aerodynamics, Engineering, Air Navigation and Metrology. Will these be the areas of concentration for the next cycle or could it change?

Who has the best coaching/preparation for the interview? I understand that Adam Hughes is highly recommended; are there others?

Interview:

The WFFF interview narratives seem to focus on logbook review, personal history, “tell about a time” type questions and possible “what if conflict” scenarios. Most of the conflict scenarios center on three possibilities.

1. Captain operates outside of standards or procedures.
2. Captain pushes safety envelope. (i.e. proceeds below MDA to get in, or pushes fuel requirements to make commute.)
3. Incidents were CA for FAs smell of alcohol or appear drunk

It’s obvious what I would do in each in real life but I’m wonder what the “School House” solution is.

Also “what is your leadership style” questions are asked and what are the interviews looking for?

Has anyone have any input into the best interview prep?

Personal:

And for me personally; I’m getting to the age where my eyesight is still 20/20 but I’m becoming near sighted. I’ve can get by without “cheaters” (cheap magnifying eye glasses) but it’s far easier to use them when reading small print. I’ve been to eye doctors and they say I’m still 20/20: will using “cheaters” be an issue during the interview?

(Silly I know but you only get one shot at this and best to be prepared.)

I’m also getting older (47): will this be an issue for getting an interview?

I hope we can keep this a useful dialog (i.e. “on topic”) on the interview process and pass along the best practices that have gotten guys the job!

Thanks in advance!

MARTY!!

Some other good study materials:

Checklist for Success-Successful Airline Interview - MyPilotStore.com

Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators (FAA Handbooks): Federal Aviation Administration: 9781560271406: Amazon.com: Books

hoserpilot 07-15-2013 07:31 PM

All the good stuff about hiring is buried in the first 10000 posts of this thread. Serious. The info was invaluable. The rest of the posts are just fluff.

DeadHead 07-15-2013 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1445649)
MAth in public warning!

There are only 10,080 minutes in a week and 135,377 posts in this thread, so it should take at least 13 to 14 weeks to read every post, assuming you only take one minute per post.

In the interest of saving time I'll sum it up....

We're hiring, any info
Rumor
We stopped Hiring
Rumor
We're merging
We're not merging
We're merging again
Delta guys screws the NWA guys in the SLI
NWA guys keep their pensions, give the DAL guys the finger
Rumor
SLI complete, Carl and Sailing trade disconcerting looks
DC-9 going away
Rumor
DC-9 staying
Rumor
ACL posts a lot of good stuff then goes missing
DC-9 going away again
FTB spreadsheet
New JFK terminal
Nobody here likes Alaska Ailines
Scope abuse
DC-9 a sticking around
DPA vs. DALPA
Contract 2012
DAL pilots save the world by ratifying
Some 737 are ordered
A refinery is purchased
Rumor
DC-9 going away
Hey look some MD 90s
DC-9's staying
Sick leave abuse is acceptable if you post on here complain about it
Some more graphs from FTB
DPA guys hate DALPA guys
DALPA guys hate the DPA guys
DPA accuses DALPA of making the MD 80 seats uncomfortable
T and Purple don't see eye to eye
ATL sucks
Commuting is a choice, but not really, well maybe it is
DC-9 goinnnn......Err staying
We're Hiring!!!!!!

Hope that saves the newcomers some time.

buzzpat 07-15-2013 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1445691)
In the interest of saving time I'll sum it up....

We're hiring, any info
Rumor
We stopped Hiring
Rumor
We're merging
We're not merging
We're merging again
Delta guys screws the NWA guys in the SLI
NWA guys keep their pensions, give the DAL guys the finger
Rumor
SLI complete, Carl and Sailing trade disconcerting looks
DC-9 going away
Rumor
DC-9 staying
Rumor
ACL posts a lot of good stuff then goes missing
DC-9 going away again
FTB spreadsheet
New JFK terminal
Nobody here likes Alaska Ailines
Scope abuse
DC-9 a sticking around
DPA vs. DALPA
Contract 2012
DAL pilots save the world by ratifying
Some 737 are ordered
A refinery is purchased
Rumor
DC-9 going away
Hey look some MD 90s
DC-9's staying
Sick leave abuse is acceptable if you post on here complain about it
Some more graphs from FTB
DPA guys hate DALPA guys
DALPA guys hate the DPA guys
DPA accuses DALPA of making the MD 80 seats uncomfortable
T and Purple don't see eye to eye
ATL sucks
Commuting is a choice, but not really, well maybe it is
DC-9 goinnnn......Err staying
We're Hiring!!!!!!

Hope that saves the newcomers some time.

DH,

That is brilliant...and pretty much spot on. You forgot Jesse, underboob, Auburn and cheerleaders. And the occasional we hate SWA post. Other than that, you nailed it!!

Buzz

buzzpat 07-15-2013 08:15 PM

Flying into LAX last night and it was really busy. Lots of traffic. I kept thinking "where are the Koreans?"

Too soon?

Bucking Bar 07-15-2013 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1445699)
Flying into LAX last night and it was really busy. Lots of traffic. I kept thinking "where are the Koreans?"

Too soon?

Asiana Representative We Su Yu announced litigation against the San Fran TV Station who reported crew names from an intern, Ollie Tabooger, for damaging Asiana's reputation (which is real news BTW) ... meanwhile in Asia, the Taiwanese news animators make the most over the top racist, hit every Korean stereotype there has ever been, with violence, whuut the .... video in the history of humankind.

Folks, don't click unless your skin is tougher than a retread on a 737 doing a no flap takeoff from SLC at MTOW, you were warned:

Never mind ... I'll get banned from APC ... if you must, search

"Youtube, Taiwanese Animation, Asiana, KTVU

The crew dancing on the airplane Gangham Style is gif worthy...

finis72 07-15-2013 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1445633)
We clearly have different agendas. You have enjoyed an extra 5 years on the top of the scale, and are happy with any contract that doesn't reduce your take-home pay. Having gone through a lot of ups and downs in your career, you may be thankful for this period of relative stability as you coast out, and don't want to rock the boat. And you've earned that.

I have a much different perspective and much different goals. I value time off more than a great hourly rate. And now we have neither. We gave away far too much in C2012 based on the company's profitability and needs. ALPA is not looking out for me or my peers.

As I said, we have vastly differing agendas. I apologize for calling you "arrogant."

I disagree with your view of why I voted for this TA but I do agree that we have different agendas. I think DALPA is doing an ok job, there is always room for improvement, you think they're a failure. We
are close to the top of the US airline industry and the only ones better might be SW but SWAPA has used constructive engagement for almost 40 years so maybe burn the house down isn't a good approach. Your apology is accepted.

80ktsClamp 07-15-2013 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1445712)
Asiana Representative We Su Yu announced litigation against the San Fran TV Station who reported crew names from an intern, Ollie Tabooger, for damaging Asiana's reputation (which is real news BTW) ... meanwhile in Asia, the Taiwanese news animators make the most over the top racist, hit every Korean stereotype there has ever been, with violence, whuut the .... video in the history of humankind.

Folks, don't click unless your skin is tougher than a retread on a 737 doing a no flap takeoff from SLC at MTOW, you were warned:

Never mind ... I'll get banned from APC ... if you must, search

"Youtube, Taiwanese Animation, Asiana, KTVU

The crew dancing on the airplane Gangham Style is gif worthy...

That was 100% worthy of the search.... if only I knew how to make a gif... WOW!


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