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Originally Posted by cni187
(Post 1461552)
Yeah we had a guy on our jumpseat last month on the 320 in Atl who said he was doing a 4 day with layovers in Fayetteville and the likes. Yikes!!!
Ha ha. Yep. I've seen alot of new and interesting overnights listed on 320 rotations. Stuff I hadn't seen since regional days. And no, I am not complaining about recapturing those places (if that is what is happening). Disclaimer added to hopefully avoid any and all mis-interpretations of my post. |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1461520)
btw= the reason for my complaining about the SC deal... It's the 12th and I've already got over 57 hours of credit. I'm nowhere near the plug anymore, too.
I think the system actually works great and wouldnt change much....other than maybe the senior 10% of reserve guys get long call only and no short calls. :) |
Originally Posted by RockyBoy
(Post 1461565)
But by the end of the month I'll bet everyone will end up within 10 hours of credit of each other. I've noticed when the SC deal gets you (and I think it sucks too) that you will fly alot until you hit bucket 3 or 3 short calls. After that you kinda end up being done with trips and done with SC unless everyone is flying into bucket 4 in your base.
I think the system actually works great and wouldnt change much....other than maybe the senior 10% of reserve guys get long call only and no short calls. :) |
Originally Posted by RockyBoy
(Post 1461565)
But by the end of the month I'll bet everyone will end up within 10 hours of credit of each other. I've noticed when the SC deal gets you (and I think it sucks too) that you will fly alot until you hit bucket 3 or 3 short calls. After that you kinda end up being done with trips and done with SC unless everyone is flying into bucket 4 in your base.
I think the system actually works great and wouldnt change much....other than maybe the senior 10% of reserve guys get long call only and no short calls. :) I've found there is a much wider variation in rsv usage... typically there is a main group within 10 hours of each other, and there are a few that get boned flying 20 more hours than others. |
Originally Posted by buzzpat
(Post 1461569)
This is anecdotal I know....but the #1 CA in LA bid reserve a few months ago and got jammed with 6 SCs in a row. I've only been on reserve one month under the new system so I can't really say much. I will add, though, that when I was on reserve under the old rules I hated the fact that seniority played absolutely no part in the process.
I agree with there being seniority on rsv. It's logical. However, the separate SC bucket is just stupid. To end up working 11/12 days solely due to not having been able to sit SC is not good. |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1461575)
To get 6 SC in a row, you have to yellow first on SC.
I agree with there being seniority on rsv. It's logical. However, the separate SC bucket is just stupid. To end up working 11/12 days solely due to not having been able to sit SC is not good. |
Originally Posted by buzzpat
(Post 1461558)
Break break....I love my job. Just met Nicole Kidman.
Carry on.... |
Originally Posted by APCLurker
(Post 1461537)
So the size of the 320 pilot base in ATL could end up being right-sized in the future for the amount of departurers.
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Reserve Bucket System
I think most fair minded people agree we should have a equitable reserve system that partly weighs seniority, but does not unduly burden our junior Pilots. I am all for such a system. And when I say junior I mean junior in seat, a 1500 seniority number can be junior on 777 reserve so it is not really a junior vs. senior issue, but more of a fairness and QOL issue in my mind.
The problem is one mans fair system is another mans hose job. I personally think the current bucket systems is a good compromise. Not perfect by any means, so lets improve it where we can, but overall not too bad. At times since the system started I have looked at different categories and posted actual numbers. Yes, actual data points like RAW scores and SC assignments but those who don't think the system is fair just blow this off and recite some anecdotal evidence of the perceived unfairness of the system. Well - I would rather have hard facts then anecdotal evidence. Hopefully DALPA will release some system-wide numbers that covers both busy and slow months and we can adjust the buckets if required. But until I see some solid evidence that supports changing the system I am fine with it as is - with the one exception of correcting and improving the SC assignments. My category LAX 73N is pretty small so it is very random to the point that seniority is often trumped by days of availability etc. That is OK because it serves to even everything out. Once again I have looked at a larger NB category - ATL 320 B and here is what it looks like for tomorrow: The following are the RAW scores with associated SC assignments as of 13 August: RAW-S/C 77-0 54-1 47-3 74-2 72-0 47-2 24-3 33-0 96-0 34-1 31-4 97-0 89-0 I realize that a snapshot of 1 category does not paint a 100% accurate picture of the system, but its better than me saying "I got hosed on reserve all month and three guys did not fly at all." It looks pretty good to me. The 3 guys in bucket 2 should now be able to relax until the others catch-up. The weak link in this chain is that none of these bucket 2 guys had any SC assignments so they may be again called out from a SC assignment. I think this needs to be addressed but all in all the whole bucket concept, and the 80 point buckets seem OK to me. Scoop |
Originally Posted by buzzpat
(Post 1461558)
Break break....I love my job. Just met Nicole Kidman.
Carry on.... But flying out of NY has it's perks too. I had Al Sharpton and Rudy Juliani recently (different flights though, unfortunately because the donnybrook that might have happened in back would have been epic) |
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