Gate space is definitely an issue. Supposedly we're in negotiations with UAL for their gates in 6. That would be huge.

Holy Hot Dogs the Green Slips are flying on the R seat of the dog.

I count 27 in ATL M88B so far (including a few out of base green slips) and the day ain't over yet.

Buzz, It's been years since I was through LAX and I'm trying to get a mental picture of T6. What airlines uses what gates at T6 currently?

Atlas (though they went with the Teamsters, not independent).

Atlas' pilots voted ALPA in in the late 90's. Atlas (the company) then bought Polar and began whipsawing the two against each other. ALPA National was totally ineffective in moderating that dispute (ala TWA/American) and were voted out.

I think the lesson here is that looking to National in labor disputes between two competing airlines won't get you very far. I know, NWA/Delta were two competing airlines with a successful outcome, but we did not look to National for help. We were big boys who slugged it out on our own and made it work.

Alaska
Copa (Departures)
Great Lakes
United

According to the airport web site... Wasn't there a rumor we are looking to trade T6 in LAX for gate space in ORD with United? Copa is just Latin United... with lower wages.

....and us, of course.

This last email doesn't help since day one people said it was a vendetta against ALPA for the typo furlough and a way to get back at ALPA after the merger. Now he's splashing the letter around again and a buddy of mine over at American said he had him on a jumpseat and they were quizzing him about the rumors. They asked him if the interweb rumor was real about trying to change the SLI and he answered that he'd do whatever the pilots asked him to do! His FO called him effen crazy at that point for even contemplating messing with the SLI under the pretense of pilot direction. It's really starting to sound far more personal by the day to me. A lot of anger and accusations for 3 years of campaigning.

Edit: I tried to embed the letter but it's blocked?

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Count me in on that sentiment. I quit taking DPA seriously because of him a long time ago.

True. ALPA national did absolutely nothing in our merger except collect more dues money after we negotiated a rate increase.

And they'll do nothing in a future ALPA/ALPA merger.

I'm not hoping for a windfall with a potential Alaska merger, but I don't want to be butt-rammed, either--which is how it's shaping up with ALPA at the helm.

Surely, despite bond/mckaskill, we'd do far, far better SLI-wise in an Alaska merger with our own independent union than we would with ALPA. We can stand up for ourselves without national working behind the scene to sandbag us.

So I ask: Will we be in better position to succeed as a pilot group in the next merger with or without ALPA? (ALPA waterboys, please don't waste our time droning on about the "benefits" of ALPA legal, etc.)