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80ktsClamp 03-21-2013 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1376789)
Since marketing has shrunk the block hours every year that is almost a certainty. The good news is this will be the first year that changes and in the coming years there will be a significant increase in mainline block hours.

Your touting of "new" captain positions continues to be faulty logic on your part. You have this inate ability to recite numbers and then come to wrong conclusions... much like your ability to never be able to use "your/you're" correctly.

Junior captain on this bid didn't even make it to 7000.

The people making captain on these bids are all those who previously held or were able to hold captain. Those who were displaced off of widebody captain back in the 09-12 timeframe have also largely not been able to recover those positions.

Lobaeux 03-21-2013 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1376803)
He totally dodged the question on the widebody order. "Our order book is full."

And he poo-poo'd any growth at DL... only touted codeshares.

That's pretty much what I got out of that. Looks like profits to be returned to shareholders, which is a good thing.

What surprised me was the statistic that the average age of the Delta fleet is over 16 years old and his claim that Delta's biggest competitors are state-run airlines.

DeadHead 03-21-2013 11:39 AM

Delta Said to Study Order for $4.3 Billion in Wide-Bodies - Bloomberg

If management had said we were getting more wide body aircraft, I would be skeptical.

So if our management is saying they have no intention of placing a wide body order until the end of the decade, then I'm still skeptical.

80ktsClamp 03-21-2013 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by Lobaeux (Post 1376806)
That's pretty much what I got out of that. Looks like profits to be returned to shareholders, which is a good thing.

What surprised me was the statistic that the average age of the Delta fleet is over 16 years old and his claim that Delta's biggest competitors are state-run airlines.

Yep. The state run carriers are the scourge of the global airline industry. They get much lower loans and when they don't make money, they are propped up by their governments.

It was hard to tell if he dodged the question on widebodies or poo-poo'd the latest rumors. He was very clear on flat capacity year over year and making sure the carrier is investment grade.

Lobaeux 03-21-2013 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1376813)
Yep. The state run carriers are the scourge of the global airline industry. They get much lower loans and when they don't make money, they are propped up by their governments.

It was hard to tell if he dodged the question on widebodies or poo-poo'd the latest rumors. He was very clear on flat capacity year over year and making sure the carrier is investment grade.

Yes, we have to remember that what he says is tempered and aimed towards investors, not other groups.

80ktsClamp 03-21-2013 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1376807)
Delta Said to Study Order for $4.3 Billion in Wide-Bodies - Bloomberg

If management had said we were getting more wide body aircraft, I would be skeptical.

So if our management is saying they have no intention of placing a wide body order until the end of the decade, then I'm still skeptical.

Yep. They have to at least be concerned with how little large metal we have compared to US/AA and UA.

tsquare 03-21-2013 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1376800)
Nothing like fellow pilots alfaromeo and tsquare hoping for your displacement. This Delta pilot brotherhood really is "special" isn't it.

Carl

Just yankin' your chain sweetheart. I flew with a buddy of yours the other day. I have question on IM that he told me to ax ya... comin' at ya.

iaflyer 03-21-2013 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by Lobaeux (Post 1376790)
He says "capacity will be flat" and new orders for 737-900s and regional jets, deferred 787 purchase until 2021 and can substitute that purchase.

Well - while on the stock exchange floor on a channel watched mostly by stock-traders, he isn't going to get close to saying "growing capacity" or imply anything like that. Also, remember that parking RJs and adding mainline jets is still "flat capacity".

He's talking about Delta seats overall.

Lobaeux 03-21-2013 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1376826)
Well - while on the stock exchange floor on a channel watched mostly by stock-traders, he isn't going to get close to saying "growing capacity" or imply anything like that. Also, remember that parking RJs and adding mainline jets is still "flat capacity".

He's talking about Delta seats overall.

True, but investors aren't going to be real excited by "flat", they want to hear "growth" and I could be wrong, but he said orders for 737-900s and regional jets and deferred the 787 orders.

Doesn't sound to me that Delta is building up with WBs and growing, sounds like he's consolidating.

Flamer 03-21-2013 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1376789)
Since marketing has shrunk the block hours every year that is almost a certainty. The good news is this will be the first year that changes and in the coming years there will be a significant increase in mainline block hours.

......and free beer tomorrow.


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