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johnso29 03-21-2013 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 1376610)
How many of those pilots (or those around them) were previously displaced from captain positions?...in other words, re-upgraded.

Nu

IDK. Do you have those numbers? And what if the CA was displaced, and decided he wanted to stay an FO? I flew with lots of DC9 CAs who preferred 747 FO instead. So if a guy takes a VD to a WB FO position and stays there, is it still not a new upgrade?

TheManager 03-21-2013 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by chuck416 (Post 1376587)
I like the way you think. But, does HI Air yield us the west coast North-South routes & traffic that we need? Not too familiar w/ the west coast metrics, so plz excuse my ignorance in this.


Best case scenario for Delta aviators = buy HA with their similar fleets and wide to narrow body ratio. Less pilots to integrate, organically grow back the Western route structure that RA 1 and the then Board abandoned with 90's, 717's 73n's. (No mess/no fuss over ALK integration and lack of WB equipment.) Seperate from Alaska and part ways. Adios, Eskimos.

Only problem with this is gate space in SEA. Don't know how many A or B gates available presently. Also, LAX gate space.

Corporation gains more options to use on the NRT/Japanese Gov't issues. Example: a Honolulu hub that possibly can be utilized for Japan over flight like the current plans for SEA, additional South Pacific/Oceana route authority, and best of all, prevents AMR from strenghtening their anemic Pacific structure. Hobble a competitor while they are trying integrate and get out of the gate

PS. Currently out here on the left coast, Hawaii is the prefered vacation destination. Mexico has scared away most of the tourist industry with cartel violence. Something about finding severed heads on the streets in the hotel zone in Acapulco that turns folks off.

"So, what is in those street tacos they are selling, cabeza?"

Additionally, Chinese and Japanese vistors numbers are up in the Islands. HA also captures both the west coast and Asian revenue into the Islands where as ALK only offers west coast. I believe they (ALK) has also cut back on Mexican frequency as well and refocused on Hawaii to redeploy their fleet. ALK is a one trick pony. HA is easily a several trick pony. Also cheaper.

Going2Baja 03-21-2013 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by Imapilot2 (Post 1376564)
just a tidbit, it takes over five years of seniority to hold anything west of the Mississippi.

13 years gets you RES in LAX on ER.

Baja.

DeadHead 03-21-2013 08:49 AM

Does PCS run usually take over 45 minutes to complete?
Assuming it gets busy around next months pcs window opening.

firstmob 03-21-2013 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by TheManager (Post 1376671)
Best case scenario for Delta aviators = buy HA with their similar fleets and wide to narrow body ratio. Less pilots to integrate, organically grow back the Western route structure that RA 1 and the then Board abandoned with 90's, 717's 73n's. (No mess/no fuss over ALK integration and lack of WB equipment.) Seperate from Alaska and part ways. Adios, Eskimos.

Only problem with this is gate space in SEA. Don't know how many A or B gates available presently. Also, LAX gate space.

Corporation gains more options to use on the NRT/Japanese Gov't issues. Example: a Honolulu hub that possibly can be utilized for Japan over flight like the current plans for SEA, additional South Pacific/Oceana route authority, and best of all, prevents AMR from strenghtening their anemic Pacific structure. Hobble a competitor while they are trying integrate and get out of the gate

PS. Currently out here on the left coast, Hawaii is the prefered vacation destination. Mexico has scared away most of the tourist industry with cartel violence. Something about finding severed heads on the streets in the hotel zone in Acapulco that turns folks off.

"So, what is in those street tacos they are selling, cabeza?"

Additionally, Chinese and Japanese vistors numbers up in the Islands. HA also captures both the west coast and Asian revenue into the Islands where as ALK only offers west coast. I believe they (ALK) has also cut back on Mexican frequency as well and refocused on Hawaii to redeploy their fleet. ALK a on trick pony. HA is a several trick pony easy. Also cheaper.

100% right on the mark!

TenYearsGone 03-21-2013 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by Going2Baja (Post 1376678)
13 years gets you RES in LAX on ER.

Baja.

13 years? Do you bid RES? or Were you a Northie? Southies get a good schedule:D


TEN

Going2Baja 03-21-2013 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by TheManager (Post 1376671)
Best case scenario for Delta aviators = buy HA with their similar fleets and wide to narrow body ratio. Less pilots to integrate, organically grow back the Western route structure that RA 1 and the then Board abandoned with 90's, 717's 73n's. (No mess/no fuss over ALK integration and lack of WB equipment.) Seperate from Alaska and part ways. Adios, Eskimos.

Only problem with this is gate space in SEA. Don't know how many A or B gates available presently. Also, LAX gate space.

Corporation gains more options to use on the NRT/Japanese Gov't issues. Example: a Honolulu hub that possibly can be utilized for Japan over flight like the current plans for SEA, additional South Pacific/Oceana route authority, and best of all, prevents AMR from strenghtening their anemic Pacific structure. Hobble a competitor while they are trying integrate and get out of the gate

PS. Currently out here on the left coast, Hawaii is the prefered vacation destination. Mexico has scared away most of the tourist industry with cartel violence. Something about finding severed heads on the streets in the hotel zone in Acapulco that turns folks off.

"So, what is in those street tacos they are selling, cabeza?"

Additionally, Chinese and Japanese vistors numbers up in the Islands. HA also captures both the west coast and Asian revenue into the Islands where as ALK only offers west coast. I believe they (ALK) has also cut back on Mexican frequency as well and refocused on Hawaii to redeploy their fleet. ALK a on trick pony. HA is a several trick pony easy. Also cheaper.

A perfect post. I know AK very well and we DON'T want to deal w/ that SLI. It would be a massacre. Hawaiian would be much better. They have very young/new Capt's but total #'s are low and the A/C would be a perfect fit.

I also agree w/ separating from AK. Looks like that is starting to happen anyway. We now fly LAX-SEA and will be doing many other overlapping AK routes.

BRING ON a HA Merger!!

Baja.

flyallnite 03-21-2013 09:06 AM

*THUD*

He's right though. We do have a crapload of widebodies, even Super widebodies. Just not ones painted in DL colors.

Delta sees no need for new widebody order: Bastian






Delta Air Lines has no need to begin long-term widebody fleet replacement "any time soon", says its president Ed Bastian.
Speaking to journalists at a press conference in London, he described reports that the airline is studying a purchase of further Airbus A330s and Boeing 777s as "interesting", but said he did not see such an order as "necessary in the near future".
He says Delta's policy of "updating and modernising" its aircraft means it has the youngest widebody fleet among the major US carriers, with an average age of 12 years, and as such it has no "additional needs".
"We made a decision several years ago that we were not going to be growing that widebody fleet," he adds, noting that the airline recently invested around $1 billion on refurbishing its aircraft interiors.
Delta's only unfulfilled widebody order is for 18 Boeing 787-8s plus 50 options. With deliveries scheduled from 2020 onwards, Bastian says this is far enough in the future for the SkyTeam carrier not to have to consider altering its plans.

dalad 03-21-2013 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by firstmob (Post 1376681)
100% right on the mark!

Yeah, when management says to you they are not interested in HA, it's time to buy. Their market cap is around $350 million.

Mem9guy 03-21-2013 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by fartboxflyer (Post 1376348)
please tell us what a frozen pension pays?

Mine pays $425.00 a month... 16 years from now.


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