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tsquare 08-13-2013 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1462214)
I want to see Sheppard Smith vs. Anderson Cooper, shirtless, covered with baby oil, have a slap fight in a kiddie pool full of jello. :eek:

Who'd Win?

Place your bets men! :D

You ice hole. I can't unsee that in my mind's eye. :mad:

Timbo 08-13-2013 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1462242)
You ice hole. I can't unsee that in my mind's eye. :mad:


Yeahbut...who do you see winning?? :D

FL370 08-13-2013 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by Roadkill (Post 1461518)
I'm totally behind johnso on this one.
(edit-- the below isn't directed to APCLurker or anyone specifically, just generally)

We as a group are soooo beyond any possible explanation of fairness or justice with this "seniority rules everything" mentality. This seniority-pyramid scheme is like every other pyramid scheme-- it only works so long as new schmucks enter in at the bottom and float the previous schmucks upwards. There is little to no justification for it except "well I had to put up with it, now it's my turn to be king and yours to be defecated on".

The senior folks have enjoyed an absolutely unprecedented length and power of seniority with the age 65 ruling. But they perceive themselves as having not moved up from uber to Uuuuuber-senior, and so they feel justified in further scatting on the juniority. The junior schmucks have been subjected to unrelieved bottom-dwelling. The pyramid scheme has been broken.

Bidding the jet you want, in the base you want, is already such a huge benefit. Then you allow folks to get first pick of trips via PBS--another huge shifting towards unfairness and disparity of treatment from the old "line of time" method where at least the trips in a month were somewhat balanced. Then you give choice of vacations via seniority. Then you give non-revving based on seniority. Now you want MORE seniority on reserve? Wow...

The system doesn't HAVE to work this way, and seniority driving everything is NOT a given. Not everyone does it that way, and certainly in other labor groups or employee groups beyond flying it's not done that way.

While I don't have a workable alternative envisioned in perfect detail in my head, I do know that essentially asking that junior guys fill up most of their month before I had to lift a finger for work is equivalent to wearing a pink Delta hat with the words "Selfish Douche Clown" under the widget.

Spot on. I could not agree more. Having been everything from junior to senior on reserve I think I can speak to the unfairness of the current system (which actually benefits me this month.) Bidding your days off is the biggest benefit of being senior (on reserve.) The jr guys are all working weekends - there is less coverage and more sick calls. If they are not flying, they are sitting sc. Weekday guys like myself? Not doing all that much.

tsquare 08-13-2013 03:13 PM

Panic button being mashed pretty hard over on the LCC/AMR merger threads. Interesting reading.

cheyenne 08-13-2013 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1462092)
He's also an Ole Miss grad and probably has to fly RJs now.

Shep is from Holly Springs, MS. Attended Ole Miss, currently has a house in Oxford. Huge Ole Miss supporter.

FL370 08-13-2013 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 1461988)
With 2 base closures and 3 displacements under my belt, I get a bit tired when I hear some complain about commuters and their "PERKS".

This is not aimed at you, obviously.

Only three displacements here. And contrary to many pilots, I actually plan on staying married. Not everyone is single or married to a stay at home mom that is willing to move whenever Delta decides to shift flying. Doesn't make us any less dedicated to the job though. Living in base is a choice - commuting often not.

index 08-13-2013 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1462230)
Richard just declared a Dividend and gave them $1Billion of...

Our Cheese! That $1Billion is just short of what the Pilot's pay cuts contributed to the Delta bottom line, every year, not to mention the $4 Billion Underfunded DB plan we gave them as well.

Pat yourselves on the backs boys, that's your money, hard at work.:rolleyes:

Thanks DALPA.

tsquare 08-13-2013 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by index (Post 1462265)
Thanks DALPA.

Really?:rolleyes:

hoserpilot 08-13-2013 04:12 PM

Well, I've been critical of DPA, Carl and T.C. I've been studying and reading DPA, Dalpa and ALPA stuff. Attended quite a few lec meetings and road shows. Been involved in union drives at a previous carrier. Spent a couple hours talking with T.C. Met him for the first time and enjoyed our chat. Sure have to respect him for his dedication and sacrifice of his personal time. He answered every question I could think of to my satisfaction. I stated here that I'd never renew my card. Well, I renewed my card. Good luck to our pilot group.

tsquare 08-13-2013 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 1462293)
Well, I've been critical of DPA, Carl and T.C. I've been studying and reading DPA, Dalpa and ALPA stuff. Attended quite a few lec meetings and road shows. Been involved in union drives at a previous carrier. Spent a couple hours talking with T.C. Met him for the first time and enjoyed our chat. Sure have to respect him for his dedication and sacrifice of his personal time. He answered every question I could think of to my satisfaction. I stated here that I'd never renew my card. Well, I renewed my card. Good luck to our pilot group.

Did you ask him about his vendetta against NWA? Of course I didn't work there, but I have flown with a lot of NWA pilots....


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