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08-29-2013 | 05:14 PM

#138201

nwaf16dude

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From: 737A

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I also agree. I'm no ALPA cheerleader but DPA does not come anywhere near my standard for professionalism or competence. TC sunk the deal for me.

You wouldn't believe some of the stupid crap he used to post on the NWAlpa web board. When I heard he was the DPA guy I knew I could never support it.

08-29-2013 | 05:14 PM

#138202

80ktsClamp

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From: Poodle Whisperer

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Man, Clamp, you have some serious 73 issues. You must have had some bad experiences. The former Bus CAs I fly with love the 73. Plus, they can see the screens in daylight.

I've outlined it before...I just don't want to see us order more of them. Nothing traumatic happened, it's just a crappy plane IMO.

I loved the trips and the captains were typically cool. It was nice seeing the screens in the daylight, and the FMC was nice except for lacking route 2. Oh, and the automatic radar on the new planes was sweet, but all new airbuses come with that too.

The love for the 737 stops there. It's a warmed over 1950's design (e.g. those fancy engine screens with no ability to do system diagnostic...instead relying on the stupid recall lights, the buzz saw trim wheel, and crappy ventilation) with a really loud and uncomfortable cockpit. Not to mention it handles like a sloppy, anemic 757. I really don't want to see us reward boeing for continued mediocrity by buying more of them.

08-29-2013 | 05:15 PM

#138203

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Man, Clamp, you have some serious 73 issues. You must have had some bad experiences. The former Bus CAs I fly with love the 73. Plus, they can see the screens in daylight.

Buzz, I flew the -800 in both seats. I agree with you on the screens, but if I can avoid the 737 for the rest of my career; I will.

Here's a slogan for you: The Boeing 737: Over-hyping Yesterday's Technology...Today.

08-29-2013 | 05:50 PM

#138204

badflaps

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From: retired 767(dl)

Even though everybody ran right over you, the 200 was just flat fun. [I bid of the "8" to fly it.]....... Now where does the period go, next to the quote thingy?

08-29-2013 | 05:56 PM

#138205

johnso29

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From: B757/767

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Originally Posted by buzzpat

I agree with that. Trust me. Bigger cockpit and better auto throttles would be nice. I love the way it flies though. It's solid. But I've been on it for quite awhile, I could be jaded.

Here's the way I see it. Ergonomically it leaves things to be desired. Overall, everything below the glareshield is great. Everything above it sucks. Excluding the CAs HUD.

08-29-2013 | 06:10 PM

#138206

80ktsClamp

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From: Poodle Whisperer

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Here's the way I see it. Ergonomically it leaves things to be desired. Overall, everything below the glareshield is great. Everything above it sucks. Excluding the CAs HUD.

Did you not notice that buzzsaw posing as a trimwheel aiming for the pilots' kneecaps?